Rough idle in drive but only when sitting at a stoplight

[vt_maverick]

It's a long shot but easy to check out by just pulling the fuse.

That's great, but which of the two fuses is it (see question above)?

[circmand]

That's great, but which of the two fuses is it (see question above)?

pull them both or pull one then the other either way it tests the proposed problem. Have you given considerationof stopping by a brake place and letting someone wo can see and hear the problem make a suggestion? After all diagnosis by description is quite difficult . BTW dont rely on not seeing the light it may be burnt out.

[vt_maverick]

what does it matter... pull them both or pull one then the other either way it tests the proposed problem.

It matters (to me at least) because I don't understand what the ramifications of pulling them independently or together would be under normal circumstances, let alone when something is wrong. Disabling parts of your brake system just to see what happens without understanding what you're doing sounds like a recipe for disaster to me.

[Marlin]

It matters (to me at least) because I don't understand what the ramifications of pulling them independently or together would be under normal circumstances, let alone when something is wrong. Disabling parts of your brake system just to see what happens without understanding what you're doing sounds like a recipe for disaster to me.

ABS is a stand alone system and not part of the brakes in the manner your thinking. Feel free to pull the ABS fuses, no worries, your brakes will still work just fine. Smiley and I have have been that way for a long time, and I am sure that there are others. If you don't like it, or it doesn't help, just put em back in.

[VX KAT]

Hmmmm, vibration/growling sound.....could it be what I'm having??...where something along the exhaust system is touching the Kilby skid plates? Mine rattles and growls when in Drive, and brakes applied at a stop.

It developed during my road trip. Jack and Dub both pushed/pulled on the muffler and some other exhaust pipes and it stopped. *Of course it's hot so be careful when you grab around there.*

I haven't had it evaluated yet.

[vt_maverick]

Hmmmm, vibration/growling sound.....could it be what I'm having??...where something along the exhaust system is touching the Kilby skid plates? Mine rattles and growls when in Drive, and brakes applied at a stop.

Could very well be. Maybe I'll crawl under the VX and take a picture of the top (inward facing) side of the plates to see if there's any shavings or scratch marks. That's a pretty scary thought. Maybe if I drop it off at the mechanic tomorrow afternoon I'll get an answer for you guys.

And thanks for the reassurances Marlin and Dub, I'll pull those fuses tomorrow and see what happens.

[Ldub]

Hmmmm, vibration/growling sound.....could it be what I'm having??...where something along the exhaust system is touching the Kilby skid plates? Mine rattles and growls when in Drive, and brakes applied at a stop.

It developed during my road trip. Jack and Dub both pushed/pulled on the muffler and some other exhaust pipes and it stopped. *Of course it's hot so be careful when you grab around there.*

I haven't had it evaluated yet.

Been under there with my own eyeballs, your problem is that the pas side (IIRC) exhaust makes contact with the kirbys...maybe a few washers between the frame & the skid plates would work?

[Marlin]

You said it was a grinding rubbing sound you could feel through the brakes. That is not the same as a rattle/vibration. There are so many heat shields on our exhaust, I have methodically removed them as they start to rattle. I have one left, and I had to remove the one above the transfer case as well. No more rattles
Mine only rattle when the brakes are on and I am sitting. That is your problem...a fast tink tink tink sound. Very annoying, but doesn't hurt anything, put it in neutral or start moving and it goes away.

[circmand]

It matters (to me at least) because I don't understand what the ramifications of pulling them independently or together would be under normal circumstances, let alone when something is wrong. Disabling parts of your brake system just to see what happens without understanding what you're doing sounds like a recipe for disaster to me.

while the systems are seperate I did not mean to suggest pull them and go out on the road drive just pull then a brief driveway idle test to see if the problems still exists.

by the way have you greased your drive train lately. Not sure if it would cause this but it might.

[tom4bren]

That's great, but which of the two fuses is it (see question above)?

"Quit changin the subject and answer the fookin question"

My favorite quote from Braveheart - ya gotta say it with a heavy Scottish accent.