Bitten by a Camera

[Y33TREKker]

...They secretly catch you and you do not know about it for weeks.

Catch you doing what?

...A cop prescence will get you to slow down

Slow down from what?

...And if cops can pick and choose who to ticket is is not a just system.

Well having once been picked out of a group of cars all doing the same speed, and ticketed (I believe) because of the type of car I happened to be driving at the time, I would agree with you there in part. But as unjust as I found that particular instance, it still didn't change the fact that all of the cars in said group were in actuality speeding at the time. So while I was left to ponder why it had been me specifically the officer had chosen to single out of the group and ticket, I still had no one to blame but myself for speeding in the first place.

[circmand]

Catch you doing what? Exceeding what some city flunky decides is the proper speed and running short yellow lights


Slow down from what? Higher speed


Well having once been picked out of a group of cars all doing the same speed, and ticketed (I believe) because of the type of car I happened to be driving at the time, I would agree with you there in part. But as unjust as I found that particular instance, it still didn't change the fact that all of the cars in said group were in actuality speeding at the time. So while I was left to ponder why it had been me specifically the officer had chosen to single out of the group and ticket, I still had no one to blame but myself for speeding in the first place.

Actually I was let go because the cop thought my Jensne Healey was totally awesome and he said he would have been hauling too with the top down on a bright sunny day. Doing 85 in a 65

Whether I got off or was speeding if you allow machines to secretly tape or record it is a violation of my rights. And obeying every law because some idiot convinced a buch idiots to vote for them is wrong. How about the next step HOAs that tax you and fine you because your house is the wrong color white? I owned the place prior to the HOA but because others built around me and voted for an HOA I had to obey their rules and the govt enforces it.

[Y33TREKker]

Whether I got off or was speeding...

Those were actually rhetorical questions.

But I have to say that if you've ever read a comment I've made here where I claimed to be some high-up governmental official that could fix all of your official problems (neighborhood-wide, city-wide, etc, etc) if I just knew what they were, I'd like to see a printed copy of the remark, signed, dated, and notarized, then sent to me in triplicate via registered courier, because I surely don't recall ever having made such a comment. (Even though the way I just phrased that probably just made me sound exactly what I'm claiming NOT to be. )

I mean, I sincerely empathize will all the BS some are expected to put up with these days, but are we still talking about traffic cameras...or what?

[Gussie2000]

I'm not against cameras to monitor certain activities.

Actually i was gonna get one my self to prove my girlfriend that at night while she's sleeping her knee punches me,but she keeps bringing up the privacy policy bill

[circmand]

Those were actually rhetorical questions.

But I have to say that if you've ever read a comment I've made here where I claimed to be some high-up governmental official that could fix all of your official problems (neighborhood-wide, city-wide, etc, etc) if I just knew what they were, I'd like to see a printed copy of the remark, signed, dated, and notarized, then sent to me in triplicate via registered courier, because I surely don't recall ever having made such a comment. (Even though the way I just phrased that probably just made me sound exactly what I'm claiming NOT to be. )

I mean, I sincerely empathize will all the BS some are expected to put up with these days, but are we still talking about traffic cameras...or what?

I read this several times not sure what you meant to say

[Y33TREKker]

I read this several times not sure what you meant to say

The rhetorical part meant that I already knew what the answers probably were to the questions I was asking, ie;

"Catch you doing what?" - I already knew that in order to warrant being caught, you probably had to be speeding in the first place.

"Slow down from what?" - A cops' presence getting you to slow down means that you had probably been speeding in the first place, otherwise, why would you feel it necessary to slow down just because a cop was present?

And I seriously wasn't trying to be an *** or anything, merely pointing out the obvious; That if you weren't probably disregarding speed limits in the first place, there would be no reason to "slow down" to avoid being "caught".

I wasn't trying to single you out either, but the way you had phrased your comments (implying innocence of any wrongdoing using the logic that it isn't wrong if everyone else is doing it too) just reminded me of the multitude of people nowadays who knowingly flout laws, but then are quick to start pointing out the injustices in the system when they turn out to be among the unfortunate few who happen to get caught. I mean, how many people have you ever personally heard joke about something "not being illegal if you don't get caught?" Sure, it's usually said in a joking manner, and possibly just said to try to impress, but these days it sure does seem to be a philosophy that more and more people are pushing to see what they can get away with.

Some prime examples of that philosophy taken to extremes were brought up earlier. Bernie Madoff, AIG, Fannie May. You tell me how many insiders there probably were who knew full well that the things they were promoting weren't quite kosher, but rather than follow their conscience, ended up having that inconvenient thought eased out of their minds by all the potential dollar signs flowing in through their eyes?

Anyway, now I'm getting off topic. In the last part of my earlier comment, I was only curious why you kept pointing out to me what you considered injustices regarding the issues of your next step HOA's, etc, and wondering if I had at some point given you the impression that I could officially do anything about them.

While I may agree that some of the rules you listed being decreed by the gov't and your local HOA's aren't quite fair, I just don't see how deciding for yourself that those rules are unfair justifies breaking other rules...rules for example, like...speed limits.

[VX KAT]

my brain hurts.....

[tom4bren]

"A cops' presence getting you to slow down means that you had probably been speeding in the first place, otherwise, why would you feel it necessary to slow down just because a cop was present?"

Now there's a leap of logic that doesn't translate to the real world. I see it alla time ... peeps driving at or below the speed limit still slow down when they see the POPO.

[Gussie2000]

my brain hurts.....

Nevermind ms sue.it's not illegal .......so far LOL

[Gussie2000]

my brain hurts.....

Nevermind ms sue.it's not illegal .......so far LOL

[pbkid]

and just cause they are cops expect everyone to obey them.

ummmmm........... ya... thats kinda how it works.

thats EXACTLY what your supposed to do... obey them...

my brain hurts.....

ugh. ya.... agreed...

[circmand]

The rhetorical part meant that I already knew what the answers probably were to the questions I was asking, ie;


"Slow down from what?" - A cops' presence getting you to slow down means that you had probably been speeding in the first place, otherwise, why would you feel it necessary to slow down just because a cop was present?
mits.

Do not worry I never take offense, However, my first reaction when I see a cop is always to pull my foot of the gas to start slowing down. I have received speeding tickets when not speeding and the judge automatically takes the cops word. One time i had been stuck behind a school bus and while still behing the cop pulls me over for speeding and it was 10 mph under the speed limit. Cop had no radar, no proof but his word and the judge automatically took his lieing words as truth. I think a lot of people of color can tell you they slow down automatically as well. The cold hard facts are cops are no better than anyone else just because they put on a gun and uniform they lie cheat and steal and have no problems doing it. And a good portion have a bully mentality and get off on the power being a cop gives them because no one respects who they are when they do not have a badge and gun. You see it on cop reality shows all the time. Making suspects say sir and maam and move or do things they have no right to tell them to do and just cause they are cops expect everyone to obey them.

I have met some cops that are entirely decent and are doing the job because they want to serve and protect but there are plenty of the other type around and the unions keep the bad examples on the force instead of putting them in prison where they belong. If a cop is suspected of illegal wrong doing in most cases they get more rights than the citizens they are sworn to protect.

[Gussie2000]

Do not worry I never take offense, However, my first reaction when I see a cop is always to pull my foot of the gas to start slowing down. I have received speeding tickets when not speeding and the judge automatically takes the cops word. One time i had been stuck behind a school bus and while still behing the cop pulls me over for speeding and it was 10 mph under the speed limit. Cop had no radar, no proof but his word and the judge automatically took his lieing words as truth. I think a lot of people of color can tell you they slow down automatically as well. The cold hard facts are cops are no better than anyone else just because they put on a gun and uniform they lie cheat and steal and have no problems doing it. And a good portion have a bully mentality and get off on the power being a cop gives them because no one respects who they are when they do not have a badge and gun. You see it on cop reality shows all the time. Making suspects say sir and maam and move or do things they have no right to tell them to do and just cause they are cops expect everyone to obey them.

I have met some cops that are entirely decent and are doing the job because they want to serve and protect but there are plenty of the other type around and the unions keep the bad examples on the force instead of putting them in prison where they belong. If a cop is suspected of illegal wrong doing in most cases they get more rights than the citizens they are sworn to protect.

The severity of the issues that irresponsible drivers brings along the roads can't be solve with traffic tickets in any way.
I believe that if a driver is caught running a traffic,hitting & running,wreckless driving,DWI or DUI several times it should be enough ground to revoke for ever the privilage to drive an motorvehicule again.tickets don't change for better the behavior of people like those behind the wheel.
If are caught driving while talking on your cell,drinking/eating,doing your make up few times it should be enough ground to suspend your license for an good period of time because you're no longer a driver,you became a threat to other driver's life & make sure you would not behind a wheel for that period of time your car should be seize 'till you prove that you are capable of being a good driver.
The goverment has spend millions & millions of $$$ to provide more security against terrorism;On the WTC attack almost 3K of people died,but irresposible drivers has killed more then 5K people during this year & isn't over yet.
Tickets doesn't solve the problem in its root but only to fill the state/city budget gap.

Getting into a wreck because you were on the cell & people get kiiled for that action it shouldn't be considered an accident any more & charge that driver with 2nd degree murder.
I have seen cops writing tickets to drivers for texting or talking,right after the cop release the driver you can see that same driver back on the cell rightaway

Radical problems needs radical solutions because out there's a huge bunch of idiots that doesn't deserve holding a DL at all.