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    Bitten by a Camera

    Yup....they put in a new camera in my area....several. I'm contributing 125 dollars to my towns new civic slushfund. I was guilty. I cannot complain. I sped up to make the light, the yellow was very short...and I'm guilty No dancing nanners here

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chopper View Post
    Yup....they put in a new camera in my area....several. I'm contributing 125 dollars to my towns new civic slushfund. I was guilty. I cannot complain. I sped up to make the light, the yellow was very short...and I'm guilty No dancing nanners here
    I got bite once... $75...The letter said I ran the light by 3/10 of a second.
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    The unmanned photo radar sites have just taken off in AZ this past 2 yrs...some dude in Phoenix wears a giraffe or other animal costume as he zooms through them....can't give him a ticket 'cuz the pic taken can't prove it was him. He was on the news about 2 weeks ago all but admitting it's him...has racked up like 90 violations according to the police. Also there's been publicity about one particular judge in Phoenix who routinely throws out the violations...can't recall the legal theory he cites but everybody loves that judge!

    Hubby (Mr. Councilman now, dontcha know!) was talking to our town's magistrate/judge this week....she says it's highly likely it's going to end up on the state's ballot....so these things will hopefully be voted out of use!

    I have mixed feelings....I've had my share of speeding tickets and, like, Chopper, I was guilty, but these automated ones are just cash cows and the towns need money....I see both sides of the issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VX KAT View Post
    The unmanned photo radar sites have just taken off in AZ this past 2 yrs...some dude in Phoenix wears a giraffe or other animal costume as he zooms through them....can't give him a ticket 'cuz the pic taken can't prove it was him. He was on the news about 2 weeks ago all but admitting it's him...has racked up like 90 violations according to the police. Also there's been publicity about one particular judge in Phoenix who routinely throws out the violations...can't recall the legal theory he cites but everybody loves that judge!

    Hubby (Mr. Councilman now, dontcha know!) was talking to our town's magistrate/judge this week....she says it's highly likely it's going to end up on the state's ballot....so these things will hopefully be voted out of use!

    I have mixed feelings....I've had my share of speeding tickets and, like, Chopper, I was guilty, but these automated ones are just cash cows and the towns need money....I see both sides of the issue.
    Tickets are unevitable as long as we drive a vehicule,intentionally or no we always fail to obey the traffic laws.

    I got one a by this rookie PO who issue a non-seat belt while i was exiting a parkway here in NYC.the problem the PO face is that he saw me without the seat belt @ a stop sign,waiting for the vehicule ahead to move which means my vehicule wasn't in motion at the time so there's no possible traffic moving violation if vehicule weren't in motion,plus he mispell my last name on the ticket & because all oficial paperwork must not show any sort of mistakes the judge is more likely to dismiss it.

    He also missed the fact the here in NYC vehicules with commercial tags ( i was driving my company's patrol with NJ CDL tags ) aren't allowed to be on parkways at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gussie2000 View Post
    Tickets are unevitable as long as we drive a vehicule,intentionally or no we always fail to obey the traffic laws.

    I got one a by this rookie PO who issue a non-seat belt while i was exiting a parkway here in NYC.the problem the PO face is that he saw me without the seat belt @ a stop sign,waiting for the vehicule ahead to move which means my vehicule wasn't in motion at the time so there's no possible traffic moving violation if vehicule weren't in motion,plus he mispell my last name on the ticket & because all oficial paperwork must not show any sort of mistakes the judge is more likely to dismiss it.

    He also missed the fact the here in NYC vehicules with commercial tags ( i was driving my company's patrol with NJ CDL tags ) aren't allowed to be on parkways at all.
    Please correct me if I'm wrong and misreading this, but are you saying that even though you are aware of the rules of the road in your state(s) (seatbelts, and operating a commercial vehicle on a parkway), you simply chose to disregard them, and rather than obeying those rules (which to me personally seem inconsequential enough) and owning up to the choices you made, find it easier in the long-run to try to play the system to try to have the ticket dismissed because of technicalities - resulting in the waste of officials time and taxpayer dollars in the process?

    And some are so quick to place blame and wonder about the causes of the inefficiency of govenrment...

    Don't get me wrong, if you don't want to wear a seatbelt, that's your choice, and so is disregarding state law (and company policy?) by driving a vehicle where you shouldn't be, but if you're going to do that, causing tax dollars to be wasted in the process, I would like to suggest that we here at VehiCross.info had better just never hear you complaining about the condition of the roads or any increases in taxes in your area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Y33TREKker View Post
    Please correct me if I'm wrong and misreading this, but are you saying that even though you are aware of the rules of the road in your state(s) (seatbelts, and operating a commercial vehicle on a parkway), you simply chose to disregard them, and rather than obeying those rules (which to me personally seem inconsequential enough) and owning up to the choices you made, find it easier in the long-run to try to play the system to try to have the ticket dismissed because of technicalities - resulting in the waste of officials time and taxpayer dollars in the process?

    And some are so quick to place blame and wonder about the causes of the inefficiency of govenrment...

    Don't get me wrong, if you don't want to wear a seatbelt, that's your choice, and so is disregarding state law (and company policy?) by driving a vehicle where you shouldn't be, but if you're going to do that, causing tax dollars to be wasted in the process, I would like to suggest that we here at VehiCross.info had better just never hear you complaining about the condition of the roads or any increases in taxes in your area.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Y33TREKker View Post
    Please correct me if I'm wrong and misreading this, but are you saying that even though you are aware of the rules of the road in your state(s) (seatbelts, and operating a commercial vehicle on a parkway), you simply chose to disregard them, and rather than obeying those rules (which to me personally seem inconsequential enough) and owning up to the choices you made, find it easier in the long-run to try to play the system to try to have the ticket dismissed because of technicalities - resulting in the waste of officials time and taxpayer dollars in the process?

    And some are so quick to place blame and wonder about the causes of the inefficiency of govenrment...

    Don't get me wrong, if you don't want to wear a seatbelt, that's your choice, and so is disregarding state law (and company policy?) by driving a vehicle where you shouldn't be, but if you're going to do that, causing tax dollars to be wasted in the process, I would like to suggest that we here at VehiCross.info had better just never hear you complaining about the condition of the roads or any increases in taxes in your area.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Y33TREKker View Post
    Please correct me if I'm wrong and misreading this, but are you saying that even though you are aware of the rules of the road in your state(s) (seatbelts, and operating a commercial vehicle on a parkway), you simply chose to disregard them, and rather than obeying those rules (which to me personally seem inconsequential enough) and owning up to the choices you made, find it easier in the long-run to try to play the system to try to have the ticket dismissed because of technicalities - resulting in the waste of officials time and taxpayer dollars in the process?

    And some are so quick to place blame and wonder about the causes of the inefficiency of govenrment...

    Don't get me wrong, if you don't want to wear a seatbelt, that's your choice, and so is disregarding state law (and company policy?) by driving a vehicle where you shouldn't be, but if you're going to do that, causing tax dollars to be wasted in the process, I would like to suggest that we here at VehiCross.info had better just never hear you complaining about the condition of the roads or any increases in taxes in your area.

    Sorry dude.

    But for the amount of taxes i pay as a single male with no kids claiming 0 on my w2 form i don;t see why i shouln't get that taxes working for me once in a while...

    The NYPD here has some sort of grudge against security officers,months ago one of our security officer was ticketed because his patrol squad had a blown daylight bulb,all the PO had to do is to warn the security officer about the issue,instead he wrote the ticket just to show the security officer that he's the good guy;It's obvious that the squad is not belongs to the S/O & the blown bulb could easely blow away while on duty.
    Then the company had a hearing requested,the general supervisor ( former LAPD ) who went to court with the ticketed S/O for the hearing saw the same PO talking on the cellphone days after he issued the ticket & took a video with the security squad's recording device.

    That day at the court house the general supervisor showed the jugde the video,then the general supervisor asked the P.O " Wearing a NYPD badge while talking on your phone with the squad in motion makes you a safer driver then my security officer with a blown headlight bulb ,isn't?....................following that the ticket was dismissed inmediately because of the P.O action the ticket was morally meanless.

    Here in NYC ALL drivers,( please read again ) ALL drivers,including PD's commits traffic violations,you can caught them eaten their dunky donuts bagel with egg & cheese & drinking coffee with the squad while doing U turns,,talking on their cellphones,with blown head lights bulbs & even with the head lights completely OFF,with broken tail or signal lights.

    That situation is common here so your judgement about me violating traffic laws does mean that much to me.

    A matter of fact me driving on a parkway with CDL tags isn't life treatening situation,plus i wasn't aware before handing the PO the registation that the squad i was driving that day had NJ CDL tags.

    Another fact that this PO forgets is that the job the security officers does helps a lot of situations & incidents from happening that could easly ended up in tragedy & taxes my friend doesn't pay for that

    Many security officers have been killed doing they job ( do you remember the jew holocaust museum in washington,DC where a security officer were killed )

    Even though security officers aren't law enforcement officials we basically does the same job a PD does,which is to protect & serve.Whenever you walk into your bank to do business & there's a S/O looking after you remember he may give his own life to protect your from being hurt & your taxes doesn't pay for that.

    And as for the bumpy streets here in NYC let me share a tip with you.To cross over the george washington brigde cost $ 8.00,to cross the verrazano bridge cost $ 11.00,the holland tunnel cost you $ 6.50,to cross the whitestone bridge cost $5.50,to crossover the triboro bridge cost $5.50 And if you drive on any of those bridges you will encounter the worst bumps in the whole of NYC.

    Only in NYC you can find bumps intentionally placed on highways & expressways to slow down drivers

    Enough for today.
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    "A" new camera? Come on down to the DC area. We have redlight cams and speeding cams on nearly every block. It's absurd.
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    speed cameras

    Our local govt just approved these as well but due to people uprising the contract will not be renewed. There are judges throwing all cases out due to illegal nature of these. Ifthat is the case here and law is correct why is it not illegal elsewhere. On top of that they mount cameras on cop cars. Thes $50,000 cop cars are sitting at the side of the road with cameras on them. This is a waste of money. The reason for govt are listed in the constitution. No where is it listed screwing citizens out of their hard earned money. If safety is the factor here than these do not do anything. They secretly catch you and you do not know about it for weeks. A cop prescence will get you to slow down being pulled over will make you think a ticket weeks later does nothing. And if cops can pick and choose who to ticket is is not a just system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by circmand
    ...They secretly catch you and you do not know about it for weeks.
    Catch you doing what?

    Quote Originally Posted by circmand
    ...A cop prescence will get you to slow down
    Slow down from what?

    Quote Originally Posted by circmand
    ...And if cops can pick and choose who to ticket is is not a just system.
    Well having once been picked out of a group of cars all doing the same speed, and ticketed (I believe) because of the type of car I happened to be driving at the time, I would agree with you there in part. But as unjust as I found that particular instance, it still didn't change the fact that all of the cars in said group were in actuality speeding at the time. So while I was left to ponder why it had been me specifically the officer had chosen to single out of the group and ticket, I still had no one to blame but myself for speeding in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Y33TREKker View Post
    Catch you doing what? Exceeding what some city flunky decides is the proper speed and running short yellow lights


    Slow down from what? Higher speed


    Well having once been picked out of a group of cars all doing the same speed, and ticketed (I believe) because of the type of car I happened to be driving at the time, I would agree with you there in part. But as unjust as I found that particular instance, it still didn't change the fact that all of the cars in said group were in actuality speeding at the time. So while I was left to ponder why it had been me specifically the officer had chosen to single out of the group and ticket, I still had no one to blame but myself for speeding in the first place.

    Actually I was let go because the cop thought my Jensne Healey was totally awesome and he said he would have been hauling too with the top down on a bright sunny day. Doing 85 in a 65
    Whether I got off or was speeding if you allow machines to secretly tape or record it is a violation of my rights. And obeying every law because some idiot convinced a buch idiots to vote for them is wrong. How about the next step HOAs that tax you and fine you because your house is the wrong color white? I owned the place prior to the HOA but because others built around me and voted for an HOA I had to obey their rules and the govt enforces it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by circmand View Post
    Whether I got off or was speeding...
    Those were actually rhetorical questions.

    But I have to say that if you've ever read a comment I've made here where I claimed to be some high-up governmental official that could fix all of your official problems (neighborhood-wide, city-wide, etc, etc) if I just knew what they were, I'd like to see a printed copy of the remark, signed, dated, and notarized, then sent to me in triplicate via registered courier, because I surely don't recall ever having made such a comment. (Even though the way I just phrased that probably just made me sound exactly what I'm claiming NOT to be. )

    I mean, I sincerely empathize will all the BS some are expected to put up with these days, but are we still talking about traffic cameras...or what?

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