scared meself!!!

[Y33TREKker]

And Trekkie my boy, you will never have me fooled...

The thing you're still missing is that I don't HAVE to fool you Scott.

It's obvious that you already have YOURSELF fooled regarding this subject, and if I then went out of MY way to try to fool you, I'd fall into the same category of piling-on that you and your safety-in-numbers cohorts always seem to have to resort to...as further witnessed by the comments that followed your post I just quoted.

It's also obvious that you and some of your friends still don't want to accept or admit it, but I'm actually trying to help you (although mostly this message board) when I suggest that it's the attitude you're displaying here that is counter-productive. But, it's become obvious that you'll never acknowledge that about my comments, so maybe you'll listen to what this girl had to say about the topic.

http://http://mostlywater.org/cliques_retard_growth

Have a nice weekend.

[JoFotoz]

IMO, this is actually very interesting...

http://http://mostlywater.org/cliques_retard_growth

...and worth discussing, despite my recent commentary.

The article essentially defines 'cliques' as groups of generically like minded people that
act alike, think alike, dress alike etc...and parlays that into the "mob mentality" sphere
that you are so fond of accusing your detractors of falling victim to.
And, IMO.. rightly advances the opinion that this type of behavior "retards" ( not a word I approve of) growth.
So yea, I agree... the sentiment of this article you hang your hat on is very valid.

The problem is, and where your hypothesis falls apart...
...nothing could be further removed from the truth relative to people here.

You have been censured by individuals that encompass :-

Staunch Republicans, AND Staunch Democrats
Life long NRA'ers, and life long gun haters.
Confirmed religious people, and confirmed atheist and agnostics.
Pro Choice and Pro Life
Climate change believers and Climate change refuters
Pro ACA and radically anti ACA.
Pro gay marriage, and VERY anti gay marriage.
members who donate, and members that dont
McDonalds lovers, and Burger king lovers.
Miley fans, Miley haters !!

....etc etc!

I think you get the drift.

The fact is, even though the VX brings us all together in ONE love..

...we are in reality a VERY diverse and eclectic group of people.

Personally, its one of the MAIN reasons I enjoy the friendship of many here.
They do have very different stances on many aspects of life, compared to mine.

And we do push each other to question our views ...

I say that as fact, having had NUMEROUS discussion re politics/abortion/guns etc
with many members, and many that are also chastising you here.

We are IN NO WAY 'retarded' in our growth ....

In fact I would suggest that the cross meeting/interacting of such a diverse group....

......has led to the exact opposite.

I know it has for me and I know others have voiced the very same.


You are not being "attacked' by a mob or clique of typically like minded people....

What you are seeing is nothing more than a consensus of opinion from a very diverse group of individuals...
..... that happen to agree on this issue.


Jo

[Y33TREKker]

The problem is, and where your hypothesis falls apart...
...nothing could be further removed from the truth relative to people here.

You have been censured by individuals that encompass...

...You are not being "attacked' by a mob or clique of typically like minded people....

What you are seeing is nothing more than a consensus of opinion from a very diverse group of individuals...
..... that happen to agree on this issue.

Jo

That's one way to look at it Jo...and a convenient one for you I might add...but not the ONLY way.

It could be viewed that you're simply trying to cloud the issue of the particular clique in this case, which is comprised of a few people comprising your "consensus" who simply don't like having it pointed out how cliquish they've been or the self-centered attitudes they've exhibited. (It's not escaped notice after all that a few of said clique members have suggested I just go away).

You see, as I've said before, I could cite a consensus of members here who feel as I do about the attitudes I've commented on, but the clique I'm referring to has never accepted THAT as a reason to actually change their attitudes, and yet here you are implying that your consensus is somehow better than my consensus? As I said, convenient.

[JoFotoz]

Trekker, the ' convenience ' of looking at it "that way"....

....was all yours, when you offered the 'retarded clique' analogy in the first place.

My rebuttal was based on actual knowledge, first hand...
.....of meeting and getting to know many of these people.

That is something you cant claim....

So, which in reality is more 'convenient' ?

Your projected hypothesis ..... or reality?

~~~


I hope these members will actually speak up....

You see, as I've said before, I could cite a consensus of members here who feel as I do about the attitudes I've commented on,

..... and support you publicly.

If we are all wrong... are all out of line...
...then the (silent) consensus you cite needs to lets us know.


But, until that happens, the only 'consensus' that can be verified...

...is the one clearly seen in this thread.

jo

[Y33TREKker]

Trekker, the ' convenience ' of looking at it "that way"....

....was all yours, when you offered the 'retarded clique' analogy in the first place.

My rebuttal was based on actual knowledge, first hand...
.....of meeting and getting to know many of these people.

That is something you cant claim....

So, which in reality is more 'convenient' ?

Your projected hypothesis ..... or reality?

You may have met those people in person, but that still doesn't change the REALITY of how they've behaved on this site in threads such as this one at times.

I hope these members will actually speak up....

..... and support you publicly.

If we are all wrong... are all out of line...
...then the (silent) consensus you cite needs to lets us know.

But, until that happens, the only 'consensus' that can be verified...

...is the one clearly seen in this thread.
jo

You SERIOUSLY still don't understand why those people would simply choose not to voice their opinions publicly after seeing some of the "verified" responses I've received in threads such as these???

I hope those people DON'T speak up and back me publicly because having that attitude directed at a person isn't something I would want for ANYONE else.

And besides, I'm very capable of defending myself with whatever ALL of you guys and girls can throw at me...as has already been "verified" in these threads.