scared meself!!!

[VXobsession]

Oh my, I came in on the tail-end of this one...

I'm gonna grab some popcorn and start reading this thread...

[VXobsession]

Trekker, you have GOT to be just completely mentally exhausted from all this hard work you're putting into this conversation.

Just for the record, I agree with Jo that we (as the VX community) come from all sorts of walks of life, experiences, beliefs...individually, we might be know-it-alls (who might not know much), last-word enforcers (who never back down from a debate), Christians, Atheists, hippies, businessmen, haters or lovers. Jo might drive an offroad whore, and I might drive a pavement princess. I'm sure there's someone here who has a trailer queen. You might have your ways of doing something, Tom has his....we've all learned what we know from failures, successes, advice, and just overall experiencing different angles of doing something. Just because you do something one way doesn't mean somebody else has to do it just like that....the end result should be all that matters. We (as VX owners/enthusiasts) share a bond/friendship/kinda like a family that should really mean something to us. These petty BS "debates" are ridiculous and frankly I'm tired of trying to keep up with my unread threads because there's one like this that's almost 20 pages long of arguing. SOMEBODY please accept that this has been beat to death and just stop with the "last-word" crap.

Just for the record, I met Jo here. Hated him the first time he said something to me. We're extremely different in our ways of life, our beliefs, the way we see the world around us. I never wanted to get on this forum just because of him. I never wanted to say anything because of that smart-a** sarcastic way he would respond....he was a jerk...and still is, in his own way. Somehow we became Facebook friends just so we could argue back and forth about politics and pick on each other more....and I love the guy to death. We're almost from 2 different planets, but I value my long distance friendship with him greatly (if you can call it that).

I think Trekker, you seriously need to chill out. You have gotten so involved in this...do you have anything else you're this passionate about??!! Let it be over with. Why are you so insistent about proving a point or making someone else feel like crap? Just walk away....whether or not you think you're right , just wash your hands of it and walk away. We're all in this VX thing together and I know I will always stand up for my VX family...even you. For YOUR sanity, just let it be.

[JoFotoz]

Love ya tooo Melanie!!

And one of these days you are your new hubby ...
...need to saddle up BOTH of your VX's and come wheeling.

Or at the very least , given your self anointed pavement princess status ...

... come ride shotgun

Bottom line for me..
... talking to people away from here, actually meeting, getting to know others...
.... puts a whole different slant on the scribbles sometimes offered here.

I've said that to Trekker many times, and expressed a desire to meet him many times.

I hope I do.

~~~~

BTW... yer a jerk too



jo

[Y33TREKker]

...I think Trekker, you seriously need to chill out. You have gotten so involved in this...do you have anything else you're this passionate about??!! Let it be over with. Why are you so insistent about proving a point or making someone else feel like crap? Just walk away....whether or not you think you're right , just wash your hands of it and walk away. We're all in this VX thing together and I know I will always stand up for my VX family...even you. For YOUR sanity, just let it be.

Well I appreciate the input, but I would simply ask the same regarding why some here are still so insistent in making others feel like crap. That's what got all this started after all. Name calling and generalized insults to raise money for this site.

But have they walked away from that attitude? No, it's occasionally brought back up with those same sarcastic and smartass comments that you yourself have just stated don't set well with you either.

Since you brought up the question of sanity though, isn't it interesting that some of the people I've been referring to are always questioning mine simply because they happen to be in the majority in this discussion?

When it's also said that in an insane world, only the "insane" are sane, that doesn't say much for the majority does it?

[VX KAT]

bet a response to me is up next....

[Scott Larson]

Ahh, yous guys make me wanna blush ...This is one big happy disfunctional family and I luvz ya all, even you brother-Trekk. You are the juxtaposition to almost everything I stand for but I still somehow oddly admire your tenacity and candor, though I really don't know why ...Back in post 226 when you said "I has gotten old", you couldn't have been more right if you tried!

Quote:
"I agree, I has gotten old, but the fact of the matter is Scott that you could have done that a LONG time ago in this thread...and you didn't."

[VXobsession]

/\ /\ /\ /\ Kat.....lol

Well, I've said all I wanted and needed to say in this thread. I guess he'll eventually stop when everybody else stops. Let him have the last word....my gosh, he put a lot of effort and passion into this thread, into trying to prove something (I lost his intent many pages ago)...he deserves it.

[Y33TREKker]

/\ /\ /\ /\ Kat.....lol

Well, I've said all I wanted and needed to say in this thread. I guess he'll eventually stop when everybody else stops. Let him have the last word....my gosh, he put a lot of effort and passion into this thread, into trying to prove something (I lost his intent many pages ago)...he deserves it.

And what have you proven, that you think you're contributing to the conversation with your occasional 2 cents even though you admit you don't even know the intent of the conversation?

Since we're discussing things deserved though, let's consider the individual offers of "help" I've received (included your multiple offers in this thread VXObsession) that were presented in the form of shared wisdom: such as pointing out that I'd be saving a lot of time, trouble, and mental energy for myself by simply ending my membership on this website and never coming back, and/or, just dropping any such discussions when it becomes obvious that no progress is being made.

Such examples of wisdom have no doubt proven true, but, only in retrospect.

While those examples of wisdom were probably intended to be viewed as being selfless in nature, and would have as suggested no doubt saved the time, trouble, and mental energy involved being more often than not ultimately wasted, it's only possible to view them that way with the benefit of hindsight. (Which incidentally, only made your comments make even less sense since it's been comments like yours that have ended up proving that my time has been wasted. Oh the irony).

When that wisdom has been based on the apparent idea that simply accepting the attitude I've been referring to would be best for everyone though, is that proposed wisdom actually wisdom, or is it simply an illustration of some having given up trying to make a positive difference just trying to perpetuate such a fatalistic view as the norm? (And in the process, conveniently making themselves appear as the individuals with the "normal" viewpoint).

After all, when such wisdom has been offered, it's been fairly obvious it would be better served if no one took the time to consider the facts that me following such wisdom and limiting my presence here in such ways WOULD ALSO JUST HAPPEN to result in the by-product of some members here not having to be reminded of the past discussions they've participated in where they've exhibited the attitude in question...having to wonder every time they see my user ID on a post on this message board whether they're going to be reminded of those past discussions once again...and saving THOSE members a lot of time, trouble, and mental energy trying to defend their past and current exhibitions of said attitude.

While that would obviously benefit SOME here, it sure doesn't add up to creating an environment that is equitable or progressive for all does it? (Rhetorical question)

Don't get me wrong, I appreciate some of you offering to "help" me save my time and effort for other more productive endeavors, but apparently, what you've apparently been imagining as taking a lot of time, effort and passion for me to respond to your comments in these threads actually only takes me a few minutes each time because this is second nature stuff for me (you're the ones who still don't get it and apparently keep having to actually think about it). Similarly to what you said before though, if you're one who continues to illustrate the attitude I've been discussing regardless of who you are or what you do for a living, I can only imagine how much misguided time, effort, and passion it must take a person to come up with posts that try to make exhibiting or defending the attitude we've been discussing sound logical and/or intended to promote the greater good for all site members. It must be exhausting...

And since you also brought up last words, surely you'll understand that I didn't make these comments because I needed to say them and have the last word, but instead said them because they simply needed to be said...and because you deserved it.

[LittleBeast]

BLAH.BLAH.BLAH.SameOldSameOld.BLAH.BLAH.BLAH.Ridic ulouslyTooLongPostThatNoOneButTrekWillActuallyRead .Blah.Blah.blah.

*Fixed it*

[Frankenstein]

*Fixed it*

Ha ha ha! 2 cents

[Y33TREKker]

*Fixed it*

Ha ha ha! 2 cents

And some of you guys and girls claim I'M the person here who is close-minded.

[Scott Larson]

And some of you guys and girls claim I'M the person here who is close-minded.

Closed-minded is the more logical spelling of the phrasal adjective meaning intolerant of others or unreceptive to new ideas. Closed-minded is logical because we wouldn't say of an intolerant person that his mind is close, which would mean literally that his mind is near. Instead, we would say his mind is closed. Some dictionaries do list not open as one of the many adjectival definitions of close, but in actual 21st-century usage close usually gives way to closed for this sense. Still, logic rarely holds sway over English usage or the rantings of you Trekkie.

[Scott Larson]

Trekkie my boy, you fracture me...really!! "I know you are but what am I", hilarity beyond words dude... I take it all back, stay off your meds cuz you're much more entertaining when yer straight!

[Y33TREKker]

Trekkie my boy, you fracture me...really!! "I know you are but what am I", hilarity beyond words dude... I take it all back, stay off your meds cuz you're much more entertaining when yer straight!

Simple typo or Freudian slip? Hmmmmm... I'm just glad I thought to quote it so it didn't magically disappear!

You obviously still don't realize it, but you're one of the last people here who should be bringing up Freudian issues.

[dietz99vcross]

As someone who isn't part of any clique on this sight I feel like I should respond and say stop being a @#*!...but why?