Legalization has begun!!

[jheyson =)]

Sorry to hear about your brother but this question is ridiculous:

By that rational all substances that may impair your ability to drive should be illegal

...By the same rational ....just rank what substances impair most one's abilities while driving.....
...Drugs will be on the top...worse than alcohol indeed!!
...with alcohol you loose part of yourself but with drugs you loose yourself...and I would not like to be driving in the same roads or being a pedestrian in a place where people are not rational anymore due to drugs

[Scott Harness]

...By the same rational ....just rank what substances impair most one's abilities while driving.....
...Drugs will be on the top...worse than alcohol indeed!!
...with alcohol you loose part of yourself but with drugs you loose yourself...and I would not like to be driving in the same roads or being a pedestrian in a place where people are not rational anymore due to drugs

You must have never been really drunk!!

[jheyson =)]

You are right! I neither drink nor smoke because I think that it does nothing positive to my body or to the people around me. However, I have given rides to some of my drunk friends after a party ,and also some that they were under the influence of drugs....it is really sad how irrational a human being can become under influence of drugs and alcohol. Drugs bring pleasure to the user....but what positive thing does pleasure bring to the betterment of society or kids ? Are people dependent of a substance to bring them happiness? I known there is a whole economic issue behind it...but it is really worth it?

...Freedom of Speech is great

[Ldub]

...Freedom of Speech is great

Agreed, but without any experience, you're parroting something that you've heard or read somewhere...

That's how rumors get started...

[Ldub]

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...with alcohol you loose part of yourself but with drugs you loose yourself.

Where do you get "facts" like this...

Reefer Madness comes to mind...
Or maybe a grade school propaganda film. (they used to tell us to get under our desk & cover our heads in the event of a nuclear attack)

Other drugs like heroin...maybe, but weed is FAR & AWAY more benign than alcohol, with regard to temprament/motor skills etc.

I've done actual, real world research...

[jheyson =)]

[QUOTE=Ldub;269877]Where do you get "facts" like this...

Reefer Madness comes to mind...
Or maybe a grade school propaganda film. (they used to tell us to get under our desk & cover our heads in the event of a nuclear attack)

Other drugs like heroin...maybe, but weed is FAR & AWAY more benign than alcohol, with regard to temprament/motor skills etc.

I've done actual, real world research...[/QUOTE

I don't get the facts from any source but the one that my one eyes have witness ,and personal experience in homeless shelters and poor areas as a volunteer in school ....Iam not sure about the effects of weed in terms of motor skills and temperament...but..they impair one's abilities at some level.

If my hours as a volunteer count.....then ...I have done actual world research,too

[Ldub]

[QUOTE=jheyson =);269884]

Where do you get "facts" like this...

Reefer Madness comes to mind...
Or maybe a grade school propaganda film. (they used to tell us to get under our desk & cover our heads in the event of a nuclear attack)

Other drugs like heroin...maybe, but weed is FAR & AWAY more benign than alcohol, with regard to temprament/motor skills etc.

I've done actual, real world research...[/QUOTE

I don't get the facts from any source but the one that my one eyes have witness ,and personal experience in homeless shelters and poor areas as a volunteer in school ....Iam not sure about the effects of weed in terms of motor skills and temperament...but..they impair one's abilities at some level.

If my hours as a volunteer count.....then ...I have done actual world research,too

I stand at 50% corrected, with a referral back hekka's last post, which is SPOT on.

My apologies...

[tom4bren]

Sorry fellers but with my lack of experience (I've led a very sheltered life) I'm going to side with Jheyson on this one.

[jheyson =)]

Thanks Tom. x2 This controversial issue may go both ways ,and Iam sure there are people in both ends.

Sorry fellers but with my lack of experience (I've led a very sheltered life) I'm going to side with Jheyson on this one.

[jheyson =)]

No problem Ldub
This is a controversial issue and it is interesting and rewarding to listen to other
people's points of view. I learn good info from hekka's articles..and it is good because we learn something new everyday..peace X2

[QUOTE=Ldub;269887]

I stand at 50% corrected, with a referral back hekka's last post, which is SPOT on.

My apologies...

[HeckaTrebeka]

I always wondered...

When you grow your own fish, you plant them tail down....right?

With Aquaponics, the plants grow the fish and the fish grow the plants... Is your mind not yet blown??? Well then, let me add that there is no fertilization needed for the plants either and all you need to do is add water!

...By the same rational ....just rank what substances impair most one's abilities while driving.....
...Drugs will be on the top...worse than alcohol indeed!!
...with alcohol you loose part of yourself but with drugs you loose yourself...and I would not like to be driving in the same roads or being a pedestrian in a place where people are not rational anymore due to drugs

Hello Jheyson, it seems like you may have a distorted view when it comes to differentiating alcohol from other drugs. Yes, alcohol is just another drug, same with caffeine and nicotine. Each drug sends different signals to your brain which enhance and impair different parts of said fatty matter.

The key difference between driving drunk and driving stoned is this:

Alcohol is a depressant because it slows down the functions of the central nervous system. This means that normal brain function is delayed, and a person is unable to function normally. Alcohol affects a person's information-processing skills, also known as cognitive skills, and hand-eye coordination, also referred to as psychomotor skills.
Consuming alcohol prior to driving greatly increases the risk of car accidents, highway injuries, and vehicular deaths. The greater the amount of alcohol consumed, the more likely a person is to be involved in an accident.
(taken from http://www.duifoundation.org/drunkdriving/impairment/)

Although cannabis intoxication has been shown to mildly impair psychomotor skills, this impairment does not appear to be severe or long lasting. In driving simulator tests, this impairment is typically manifested by subjects decreasing their driving speed and requiring greater time to respond to emergency situations.
(taken from http://norml.org/library/item/mariju...tific-evidence)

Jheyson, if you've read this far then I thank you for your time and consideration on this matter and ask that you please do some research before setting any opinion either for or against marijuana/alcohol/any other drug.

[Ldub]

With Aquaponics, the plants grow the fish and the fish grow the plants... Is your mind not yet blown??? Well then, let me add that there is no fertilization needed for the plants either and all you need to do is add water!

[VXR]

I would not like to be driving in the same roads or being a pedestrian in a place where people are not rational anymore due to drugs

Sorry to shatter your false sense of security but you already are...

[jheyson =)]

Sorry to shatter your false sense of security but you already are...

..Right on the spot !!!
enough said

[VXR]

..Right on the spot !!!
enough said