Engine Life Poll........For extensive scientific purposes #2

[89Vette]

And knowing how unreliable our engines are i can't think of any VX'er pushing to the limit their engines,especially with the oil burning issue,the more RPM the more you burn oil.

I recall three years ago i went upstate NY with my brother-in-law and on my way back to NYC i made 110 mph for several miles,1rst and last time because once i get back home and check the oil level i was surprise how much oil was missing

Two thoughts....

There have people surprised by this phenomenon in more than just VX vehicles. In some conditions, climates, driving intervals, etc... it's possible for moisture/condensation to build-up in your crankcase. (Often this occurs with short driving intervals/times) Then, when you take a car out on the road, driving for a more extended period, the condensation in the oil heats up and dissapates. This causes the level on your stick to drop...making you think you've burned more oil than you have.


While you and KB may consider VX engines unreliable, how bad is it really? There are 103 responders to the engine failure poll. If Moncha let us know how many owners have passed thru this forum it would help. It would help to determine how to revise this statistic....

Of 4100ish VX's imported to America, we have 103 reported here. 103/4100 is less than 1% failure. Maybe the normal failure rate for any given product line is .01%. For the VX, .025% would be higher. Does it really warrant panic? I'm not convinced, or I wouldn't have purchased one.

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BTW...My 2001 burns almost no oil during 3k oil changes. There's nothing wrong with the motor and it's over 80k miles.

I believe there's way more people who don't understand (or want to pay for) the level of maintenance required to keep any given vehicle in that top 5% -- considered "excellent". By that, I mean many people just buy a car and drive it. If, with the VX, there's a less-than-perfect design for the oil-ring, then people who slack on oil changes (or drive in dusty/bad environments), they could see a higher incident of failure. From that, can we really conclude our engines are reliable? Not from my perspective.

[Gussie2000]

Two thoughts....

There have people surprised by this phenomenon in more than just VX vehicles. In some conditions, climates, driving intervals, etc... it's possible for moisture/condensation to build-up in your crankcase. (Often this occurs with short driving intervals/times) Then, when you take a car out on the road, driving for a more extended period, the condensation in the oil heats up and dissapates. This causes the level on your stick to drop...making you think you've burned more oil than you have.


While you and KB may consider VX engines unreliable, how bad is it really? There are 103 responders to the engine failure poll. If Moncha let us know how many owners have passed thru this forum it would help. It would help to determine how to revise this statistic....

Of 4100ish VX's imported to America, we have 103 reported here. 103/4100 is less than 1% failure. Maybe the normal failure rate for any given product line is .01%. For the VX, .025% would be higher. Does it really warrant panic? I'm not convinced, or I wouldn't have purchased one.

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BTW...My 2001 burns almost no oil during 3k oil changes. There's nothing wrong with the motor and it's over 80k miles.

I believe there's way more people who don't understand (or want to pay for) the level of maintenance required to keep any given vehicle in that top 5% -- considered "excellent". By that, I mean many people just buy a car and drive it. If, with the VX, there's a less-than-perfect design for the oil-ring, then people who slack on oil changes (or drive in dusty/bad environments), they could see a higher incident of failure. From that, can we really conclude our engines are reliable? Not from my perspective.

I am completely convinced that these engine were poorly designed.Of course maintainance plays a huge role in the life span of any engine,but when your are dealing with a engine such as our it requires twice the time and some times the money to keep the VX on the go.

I spend several hours and research enough to openly admit that we all driving a unique vehicule with engines that has a huge potential to go boom at anytime even with the best maintainance you can perform.

And you got to remember that our engine is also use in the trooper and the rodeo.

There is several websites in which isuzu customers shares their experience with and is really sad to ready how many of them reports premature engine failures.

Speaking of my personal experience i bought my VX with only 38k back in 2008 and proven proof of maintainance was given to me upon request,short after my engine develope a valve knocking/tapping.
My mech who's a former isuzu specialist told me to drive the VX 'till the engine stop working.Yes, i can had the engine rebuild right away,but he honestly admit that it could fail again after a entire overhaul.why ? Simply,this engine was made with few,but serious flaws.

No car manufacturer never recall vehicules for engine failures,is just way too costly and instead they rather invest in develop an better engine.

Isuzu received thousands of claims for engine failures,but never openly admited.

If your VX doesn't have issues you are part of a small lucky group of isuzu product owner

[VXR]

you got to remember that our engine is also use in the trooper and the rodeo.

There is several websites in which isuzu customers shares their experience with and is really sad to ready how many of them reports premature engine failures.

It is also good to remember that people who have no engine problems do not often seek out websites to tell everyone.

[Ldub]

I am completely convinced that these engine were poorly designed.Of course maintainance plays a huge role in the life span of any engine,but when your are dealing with a engine such as our it requires twice the time and some times the money to keep the VX on the go.

I spend several hours and research enough to openly admit that we all driving a unique vehicule with engines that has a huge potential to go boom at anytime even with the best maintainance you can perform.

And you got to remember that our engine is also use in the trooper and the rodeo.

There is several websites in which isuzu customers shares their experience with and is really sad to ready how many of them reports premature engine failures.

Speaking of my personal experience i bought my VX with only 38k back in 2008 and proven proof of maintainance was given to me upon request,short after my engine develope a valve knocking/tapping.
My mech who's a former isuzu specialist told me to drive the VX 'till the engine stop working.Yes, i can had the engine rebuild right away,but he honestly admit that it could fail again after a entire overhaul.why ? Simply,this engine was made with few,but serious flaws.

No car manufacturer never recall vehicules for engine failures,is just way too costly and instead they rather invest in develop an better engine.

Isuzu received thousands of claims for engine failures,but never openly admited.

If your VX doesn't have issues you are part of a small lucky group of isuzu product owner

Gustavo...

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't you the one who drains out all his oil, then replaces two quarts with diesel, or kerosene, or something, then runs the engine with nothing but that in the crank case, as a flush?

Ya gots me to wondering...

[89Vette]

I am completely convinced that these engine were poorly designed.Of course maintainance plays a huge role in the life span of any engine,but when your are dealing with a engine such as our it requires twice the time and some times the money to keep the VX on the go.

Engines that are poorly designed don't last this long....
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