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    Quote Originally Posted by Jpuga87 View Post
    how does the front get lifted cause i dont see any hardware to lift the front
    ...I'll show/help you.

    The only tools you'll need is a case of Newcastle Brown, or a bottle of Mount Gay Rum.

    Its that easy!

    If ya dont fancy a short road trip..PM me...I'll give you my number...

    ...then I can talk you through it.

    And Dub is right.....PB blaster or whatever on the T/bar bolts NOW...
    ...index the bolt heads...crank equally...then an ALIGNMENT.

    As for the b/j flip...I'm not convinced its vital.



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    Quote Originally Posted by JoFotoz View Post


    As for the b/j flip...I'm not convinced its vital.



    jo
    You are correct Sir.

    Here's a tip for those lifting, crank the torsion bars and drive the VX around a bit. Next look at the front tires and if you see negative camber (tires like /---\), its time to do the BJ flip. If the tires are straight (l---l), go get an alignment & you're done .

    The BJ flip causes positive camber (\---/) and is only useful in counteracting negative camber. In my case, the BJ flip caused too much positive camber on my tires so I put the BJs back in the normal position. This modification should be done on a case by case basis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VXorado View Post
    You are correct Sir.

    Here's a tip for those lifting, crank the torsion bars and drive the VX around a bit. Next look at the front tires and if you see negative camber (tires like /---\), its time to do the BJ flip. If the tires are straight (l---l), go get an alignment & you're done .

    The BJ flip causes positive camber (\---/) and is only useful in counteracting negative camber. In my case, the BJ flip caused too much positive camber on my tires so I put the BJs back in the normal position. This modification should be done on a case by case basis.
    I always thought it was for the extra down travel/flex...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ldub View Post
    I always thought it was for the extra down travel/flex...
    That's true you get a little more down travel with the BJ flip so I shouldn't say it's only useful for camber adjustment.

    This is from the PlanetZU article:
    "The purpose of this modification is two fold: Increase suspension down-travel, and improve the alignment after lifting. When the torsion bars are cranked, some amount of negative camber is induced into the steering geometry. This is just due to the design of the IFS system. Under ideal circumstances there should be a slightly negative camber. Too much negative camber will cause uneven tire wear, and will also decrease the traction, mostly during cornering due to the tire having a poor contact patch. By flipping the ball joint, or flipping it and using a spacer, the camber is moved back toward the norm, which is much closer to 0. Depending on your specific setup, it may go back to perfect alignment, or not, but you should have the truck aligned after front end suspension changes anyway."


    I guess we're both right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoFotoz View Post
    As Tom says Coastie...





    Its not that a cross member isnt needed.

    Its just that the original is equally good/strong and would have served the same purpose...

    ....and taken the same kind of hit.


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    Quote Originally Posted by VXorado View Post
    That's true you get a little more down travel with the BJ flip so I shouldn't say it's only useful for camber adjustment.

    This is from the PlanetZU article:
    "The purpose of this modification is two fold: Increase suspension down-travel, and improve the alignment after lifting. When the torsion bars are cranked, some amount of negative camber is induced into the steering geometry. This is just due to the design of the IFS system. Under ideal circumstances there should be a slightly negative camber. Too much negative camber will cause uneven tire wear, and will also decrease the traction, mostly during cornering due to the tire having a poor contact patch. By flipping the ball joint, or flipping it and using a spacer, the camber is moved back toward the norm, which is much closer to 0. Depending on your specific setup, it may go back to perfect alignment, or not, but you should have the truck aligned after front end suspension changes anyway."


    I guess we're both right.
    Would a BJ flip be better so you don't have to crank the torsions as much, thus reducing the stiffness in the IFS front end?? My experience in my Toyota truck 4x4 days with IFS is the more you crank the torsions, reindexing etc. the stiffer the ride and sometimes to a point the shocks barely do any work. Also, with a BJ flip, you have to cut the snubbers or replace with low pro ones to gain the down travel?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lasturbo View Post
    Would a BJ flip be better so you don't have to crank the torsions as much, thus reducing the stiffness in the IFS front end?? My experience in my Toyota truck 4x4 days with IFS is the more you crank the torsions, reindexing etc. the stiffer the ride and sometimes to a point the shocks barely do any work. Also, with a BJ flip, you have to cut the snubbers or replace with low pro ones to gain the down travel?
    Same thing with Isuzu, I installed the body lift so I could lower the suspension becuase it got really stiff at 4" IFS lift.

    The BJ flip won't cause lift because you flip the top BJ and the lift comes from the lower A-arm. Addtionally, you don't need the low profile bump stops since the BJ flip mounts the spindle a 1/4" (?) lower. Low profile bump stops will give you another 1/4-1/2" down travel.

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