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    Daniel Stern has been very vocal about his low opinion of the optics of all sorts of lighting upgrades. He has posted all over the Internet for years.

    Much of what he says makes sense but I have no idea how valid it is.

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    From what I understand, and this may be true or a complete rumor, if HID's didn't come on your car from the factory, then it is illegal to upgrade to them. I read this on the XenonRider website (where I got my HID kit):

    Are Xenon HID light systems street legal?

    Every country and jurisdiction has its own rules and regulations governing the use of automotive lighting. Xenon HID lighting systems that are supplied with the vehicles from the factory are DOT approved. The same OEM manufacturers that supply all the major car companies of the world also make our kits. NO AFTERMARKET XENON HID lighting system from any source is DOT approved if installed outside of the factory. These kits are not street legal for use on public roads as they are. As a result, we officially endorse the kit for exhibition and off-road use and will only sell the kit to be used for these purposes. We are not responsible for customers who violate the terms of sale in which they will assume all responsibilities for any unauthorized or unintended use other than exhibition or off-road use.

    I have no idea why this is the case. In know my HID's are bright as heck, and I nearly get blinded by the reflection coming back off of highway signs. I've had my HID's for a couple of years now, and have never been pulled over or hassled in any way about them (other than oncoming drivers flashing their high beams at me). Heck, the VX is so rare, how would anyone know that HID's didn't come on it from the factory?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wintermute View Post
    I was searching the site looking for an HID kit as I'm interested in upgrading the VX. I stumbled upon the following article on HID upgrade kits which isn't exactly a ringing endorsement:

    Daniel Stern Lighting

    Has anyone here even heard of anyone being cited for an "illegal" HID conversion, or heard of any problems whatsoever caused by these kits?

    In any case, I found the article interesting, though I'm not sure how neutral it is, nor that it dissuades me from going forward with the conversion. I did want to run it by you fine folks to see what you all thought about the topic.

    Thanks.
    Quote Originally Posted by rsteinmetz70112 View Post
    Daniel Stern has been very vocal about his low opinion of the optics of all sorts of lighting upgrades. He has posted all over the Internet for years.

    Much of what he says makes sense but I have no idea how valid it is.
    Quote Originally Posted by MSHardeman View Post
    From what I understand, and this may be true or a complete rumor, if HID's didn't come on your car from the factory, then it is illegal to upgrade to them. I read this on the XenonRider website (where I got my HID kit):
    FWIW...

    Most of those on the forum, including a few members (who shall remain nameless) of the law enforcement community, who are using retro-fit HID kits, know they're a little bit outside the law.

    You might as well face it, if you're willing to run with this group, you're in with a bad crowd of known pirates, scofflaws, hoodlums, hooligans, delinquents, outlaws, scallywags, miscreants & no goodniks.

    You'll get used to it...

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