SUPER FLEXY IFS ????? who wants it?

[Ascinder]

I was referring to a dash-mounted super flexy IFS controller for the VX, not looking to buy a 2014 Jeep. I've got to think something could be substituted for the removable pin?

I think the thing you're looking for in that case is a solenoid. You could also use a cable or push rod to make it lever actuated. An air or hydraulic cylinder would also work but require a little more work. I'd stick with the solenoid. You would probably have to taper the pin too so it would engage smoothly. How hard is it to get out and pull a pin though? Seems like for as much as you'd use this, you could pull a pin out 50 times and it would take just as long as installing a system like that once, not to mention cost, complexity, and reliability.

[RallyDude]

I thought about a solenoid, but I didn't know if you had to move that yolk back and forth in order to get the pin in.

[vt_maverick]

How hard is it to get out and pull a pin though? Seems like for as much as you'd use this, you could pull a pin out 50 times and it would take just as long as installing a system like that once, not to mention cost, complexity, and reliability.

Unless you have skid plates. Obviously I've never installed this kit on my VX, but I would think it would be difficult to pull (and probably even harder to replace) the pin without removing the plate. If that's the only way to do it, then it kind of defeats the point of an easy to use pin.

[Ascinder]

I can see where you guys are coming from with the skidplates, but I just really have a hard time believing that you're going to be able to get this system to align itself perfectly each time and get the pin to engage and disengage without it hanging up. If the hole the pin goes into has slop in it so it engages easier, then conversely it wouldn't be that tight when engaged and you'd probably have it rattling and banging all the time. On the other hand if it is a precision fit, them it's harder to line up each time. Solenoids aren't that powerful, and if you step up to hydraulics you may damage something by forcing the pin when it is out of alignment. That's kind of what I was meaning about being more troublesome that just going the manual route. Not saying it can't be done. Just may be pretty diffict to get right.

[rowhard]

First off, well done, those are excellent demo vid's and it show's how well your Super Flexy IFS works.

I'm sure if he can design this, skid plate/pin interference would be a very minor bump in the road.

[BigMeatVX]

I think the thing you're looking for in that case is a solenoid. You could also use a cable or push rod to make it lever actuated. An air or hydraulic cylinder would also work but require a little more work. I'd stick with the solenoid. You would probably have to taper the pin too so it would engage smoothly. How hard is it to get out and pull a pin though? Seems like for as much as you'd use this, you could pull a pin out 50 times and it would take just as long as installing a system like that once, not to mention cost, complexity, and reliability.

Yes the PIN already has a taper on the end of it that helps with allignment.

Most electric solinoids are not powerfull enough to pull this pin, however...Air or hydraulic?????? way to much work and too complicated...IMHO

Here is what WILL work.

Imagine a HD long Valve-spring that holds the PIN in the hole....Now imagine a OEM style e-brake handle (which has compound leverage on a cable) attached to a HD cable....which is attached to the PIN.....
You pull the handle up untill it locks,,,the coil spring force (and friction) is overcome and the PIN slides back releasing the Cross-bar for SUPER-FLEXY use.

Then, when you hit the pavement again, then release the handle...The coil spring then pulls the handle down and pushes the pin back in place...(Of course you may have to rock the rig back and forth just a bit, but this could be done while in motion with just a flick of the steering wheel.)

This is something I will make availble later, however it will be $$$...

There are other ways to do this , also.... Just a big lever with simple linkage would work, too.

[Robbomaz]

Yes the PIN already has a taper on the end of it that helps with allignment.

Most electric solinoids are not powerfull enough to pull this pin, however...Air or hydraulic?????? way to much work and too complicated...IMHO

Here is what WILL work.

Imagine a HD long Valve-spring that holds the PIN in the hole....Now imagine a OEM style e-brake handle (which has compound leverage on a cable) attached to a HD cable....which is attached to the PIN.....
You pull the handle up untill it locks,,,the coil spring force (and friction) is overcome and the PIN slides back releasing the Cross-bar for SUPER-FLEXY use.

Then, when you hit the pavement again, then release the handle...The coil spring then pulls the handle down and pushes the pin back in place...(Of course you may have to rock the rig back and forth just a bit, but this could be done while in motion with just a flick of the steering wheel.)

This is something I will make availble later, however it will be $$$...

There are other ways to do this , also.... Just a big lever with simple linkage would work, too.

Two small pins driven in/out by cantilevers? The amount of mechanical advantage can be tailored and operation could be by a cable thru the floor to (ANOTHER ) lever

PS: Love ya work M8! Nothing better than rolling an **allegedly inferior** truck past the big ones

[Marlin]

Mine gets here thursday...I will be at Hallowharrie though I will get the install done in mid november, gotta finsh up my diff drops first (Joe D cut and welded em for me, but I gotta finish em up and do the cross member mod). I will take lots of pics during install. I have a uwharrie run in December, so look for some decent rock vids then...unless someone beats me to it.

[Robbomaz]

Mine gets here thursday...I will be at Hallowharrie though I will get the install done in mid november, gotta finsh up my diff drops first (Joe D cut and welded em for me, but I gotta finish em up and do the cross member mod). I will take lots of pics during install. I have a uwharrie run in December, so look for some decent rock vids then...unless someone beats me to it.

So they are actually 'in production'? I just PM'd meat regarding...

[BigMeatVX]

That map should be manditory in school....

Ive been busy offroading, and working on improvements...the PIN is a bit difficult to remove at times

[Robbomaz]

That map should be manditory in school....

Ive been busy offroading, and working on improvements...the PIN is a bit difficult to remove at times

Dropped you a email a week or so back to the hotmail address mate! Did ya get it?