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    Quote Originally Posted by etlsport View Post
    toast, nice choice of tire.. they are great tires

    circ, if i was trying to sell him tires sure your theory would hold water, but what do I have to gain from Toast buying 2 or 4 tires? and sure im sure the reps were trying to get me to sell more tires, but its the same as any sales pitch, if you go and buy brand new TV, the salesman will probably try to sell you new cables and maybe a new DVD player. is it a waste of money to buy these things? possibly. but you will also use many more features of that new tv with a new dvd player as opposed to a 3 year old one. you have to decide whether or not you will benefit from the purchase.

    Our factory dueler HTs come with 11/32 of tread.. to be at 40% of useable tread remaining on the tire his tread depth would have had to have been around 5-6/32. Any snow tire has its wear indicators at 6/32 of tread... ie even at that depth dedicated snow tires dont work in the snow!.




    here is another video showing stopping distances with worn tires

    http://www.metacafe.com/watch/249831...h_do_you_need/


    is putting two tires on a toyota camry going to hurt the car? no.
    but on an AWD you bet it will over work the transfer case in rain and snow.

    the vx responds negatively to variation of 4-5 psi of pressure in tires. you think little pressure difference will change the size of a tire by 1/3 of an inch? it doesnt, but having a tread depth difference of 5/32 does. at that difference the new tires are traveling a full inch farther per rotation than the worn ones
    2 new tires is as good as 4 new ones. The question was did the poster NEED to buy 4? I maintain he did not. Of course being fresh minded this morning I have a question.

    If 4 new tires are always required what happens when you buy road hazard warranties on tires from these manufacturers? Do they say as a result of the blowout you need 4 new tires here you go free of charge? No! When it comes to making the purchasing decision on tires with their money its slap one tire on it and your good to go dont worry about it you're safe its fine it wont hurt the car at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by circmand View Post
    2 new tires is as good as 4 new ones. The question was did the poster NEED to buy 4? I maintain he did not. Of course being fresh minded this morning I have a question.

    If 4 new tires are always required what happens when you buy road hazard warranties on tires from these manufacturers? Do they say as a result of the blowout you need 4 new tires here you go free of charge? No! When it comes to making the purchasing decision on tires with their money its slap one tire on it and your good to go dont worry about it you're safe its fine it wont hurt the car at all.

    Things that make you say HMMMMMMMMMMM
    you caught me circ. toast would have been fine with just replacing 1 tire on his vehicle, but i talked to his tire salesman last week and he agreed to cut me in on the commission if he bought multiple tires. and well it just wasnt worth splitting the commission on 2 tires with his tire salesman and the guy we paid to put the nail in the road to make his tire go flat in the first place

    the example i gave about goodyear and rotations.. the 2 rear tires were at 4/32 the two fronts were at 8/32, goodyear warrantied all 4 equally because it was a 4wd pickup. and that wasnt even a road hazard problem

    and yes in the past i have warrantied multiple tires on a single road hazard claim to keep the vehicle safe. bottom line is if you work with your salesman, they will work with you

    i never said he couldnt do it, i said why would you? no its not as safe, i think we can agree on that. if its not as safe AND it can do damage to your vehicle why would you ever replace just 2?


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    Quote Originally Posted by etlsport View Post
    you caught me circ. toast would have been fine with just replacing 1 tire on his vehicle, but i talked to his tire salesman last week and he agreed to cut me in on the commission if he bought multiple tires. and well it just wasnt worth splitting the commission on 2 tires with his tire salesman and the guy we paid to put the nail in the road to make his tire go flat in the first place

    the example i gave about goodyear and rotations.. the 2 rear tires were at 4/32 the two fronts were at 8/32, goodyear warrantied all 4 equally because it was a 4wd pickup. and that wasnt even a road hazard problem

    and yes in the past i have warrantied multiple tires on a single road hazard claim to keep the vehicle safe. bottom line is if you work with your salesman, they will work with you

    i never said he couldnt do it, i said why would you? no its not as safe, i think we can agree on that. if its not as safe AND it can do damage to your vehicle why would you ever replace just 2?
    Show me the Isuzu post that states that the owner needs to replace all 4 tires in the event any tire becomes a set diameter different than any of the others. I know there are warnings on some cars. A lot of that came from the 70s when people started putting larger and wider tires on their cars and these much larger tire differences presented a challenge to the AWD system. However if it was a reality that a couple of MMs difference actually harmed the vehicle I am sure Isuzu and other manufacturers would not only warn but state it violated the warranty. Once again the question was not whether is was better to get 2 or 4 tires but whether it was necesary.

    I appreciate your humor in the post. I often see that when logic is no longer on a persons side. Make a joke make up a ludicrous statement that was never made and infer it was the other persons position but that just doesnt work.

    I will admit total defeat when I see the Isuzu post as well as credible link as to where it came from. After all any one can post anything on the internet and claim they are an expert.

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