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    Quote Originally Posted by ZEUS View Post
    Otherwise, I like what Bart said about being pro-choice and pro-whatever at the same time.
    Except those things are precisely the hot-button topics that the parties use to disguise the fact that on 99% of everything else - the topics that matter in the day-to-day life of the majority of the population - the parties are identical. It's like the old Douglas Adams bit about voting for the wrong lizard...

    [An extraterrestrial robot and spaceship has just landed on earth. The robot steps out of the spaceship...]

    "I come in peace," it said, adding after a long moment of further grinding, "take me to your Lizard."

    Ford Prefect, of course, had an explanation for this, as he sat with Arthur and watched the nonstop frenetic news reports on television, none of which had anything to say other than to record that the thing had done this amount of damage which was valued at that amount of billions of pounds and had killed this totally other number of people, and then say it again, because the robot was doing nothing more than standing there, swaying very slightly, and emitting short incomprehensible error messages.

    "It comes from a very ancient democracy, you see..."

    "You mean, it comes from a world of lizards?"

    "No," said Ford, who by this time was a little more rational and coherent than he had been, having finally had the coffee forced down him, "nothing so simple. Nothing anything like so straightforward. On its world, the people are people. The leaders are lizards. The people hate the lizards and the lizards rule the people."

    "Odd," said Arthur, "I thought you said it was a democracy."

    "I did," said Ford. "It is."

    "So," said Arthur, hoping he wasn't sounding ridiculously obtuse, "why don't the people get rid of the lizards?"

    "It honestly doesn't occur to them," said Ford. "They've all got the vote, so they all pretty much assume that the government they've voted in more or less approximates to the government they want."

    "You mean they actually vote for the lizards?"

    "Oh yes," said Ford with a shrug, "of course."

    "But," said Arthur, going for the big one again, "why?"

    "Because if they didn't vote for a lizard," said Ford, "the wrong lizard might get in. Got any gin?"

    "What?"

    "I said," said Ford, with an increasing air of urgency creeping into his voice, "have you got any gin?"

    "I'll look. Tell me about the lizards."

    Ford shrugged again.

    "Some people say that the lizards are the best thing that ever happened to them," he said. "They're completely wrong of course, completely and utterly wrong, but someone's got to say it."



    BTW, have you noticed anything interesting about TV or radio programs biased toward R or D? Why is it all the R-geared shows are run by raging hotheads having heart attacks while the D-geared shows are always comedy-oriented entertainment?
    Olberman seems like a raging hot-head to me. And while Colbert is out-right liberal, The Daily Show tries - sometimes at the expense of actually being funny - to be equal opportunity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stephen Biko View Post
    Except those things are precisely the hot-button topics that the parties use to disguise the fact that on 99% of everything else - the topics that matter in the day-to-day life of the majority of the population - the parties are identical.
    I guess for a lot of it, yes, but then why do we have some parties trying to outlaw guns and some trying to outlaw stem cell research?

    Really the only thing that effects the majority's day-to-day life are economical issues. Do we have jobs? Are gas and food prices going up? Can I afford a house? How much taxes do we pay?

    Bart

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    Quote Originally Posted by nfpgasmask View Post
    I guess for a lot of it, yes, but then why do we have some parties trying to outlaw guns and some trying to outlaw stem cell research?
    Because those are hot button topics that people easily get riled up about and provide excellent distraction from the humdrum but really important stuff.

    Really the only thing that effects the majority's day-to-day life are economical issues. Do we have jobs? Are gas and food prices going up? Can I afford a house? How much taxes do we pay?
    Yes precisely - its the economy and how massively over-manipulated it is due to lobbying. All those things you named fall out from the economic policies - or rather bazillions of exceptions and special-cases - that corps get in return for their dollars. Dollars that are pretty evenly split between both parties.

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    Here's a little something for both sides to wrap your brain around......

    http://www.rense.com/general89/pelos.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ldub View Post
    Here's a little something for both sides to wrap your brain around......

    http://www.rense.com/general89/pelos.htm
    I wonder if it is crewed by military personnel, and if so, how many times have they joked about throwing her out the window?

    I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.
    Thomas Jefferson

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marlin View Post
    how many times have they joked about throwing her out the window?
    One word...EVERY

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    a few points

    Clinton Surplus Myth

    http://www.craigsteiner.us/articles/16

    Oama Bin Laden came to power due to extreme wealth of his family and fighting Russia in Afghanistan. No link has ever been tracked to US. However he was offered to the USA when Clinton was President after he tried to blow up the WTC the 1st time and Clinton refused to arrest and try him. Anything after this time can be blamed solely on Bill Clinton

    Democrats love for the minority.

    It was the Republicans under Lincoln who freed the slaves the DEmocrats started the Civil War to stop them from being freed. They have deluded minorities for years by giving them crumbs from their table and blaming the people who freed them as responsable for their situation in life. (Feed a man a fish he eats for a day teach him how to fish he eats for a lifetime) The Democrat Socialist agenda is all about giving meals and keeping them from learning how to fish so they feel beholden to them and vote for them. The Stimulous mostly went to preserve govt. jobs, union jobs, teachers jobs all bastions of Democrat votes.

    Bail outs to banks were wrong but most have paid back the money with interest excent Freddie and Fannie which received the most and have BOs blessing to continue the way that caused the issues. The fees BO is wanting do not stop the bad banking ideas they just require BO gets his share, he also plans on not requiring Freddie and Fannie to pay them.

    BOs tax the rich and their medical plans policy has an exemption for union cadilac plans further payoff.

    The cost of Health Care needs reformed BO plan has no cost containment just control and neith party has ever demonstrated the ability to control costs of a govt program. In addition if the plan is so good why did Reid need to put bribes totaling over a billion dollars to buy votes? Such as Nebraska bribe which even the good people of Nebraska opposed. Thereby requiring other states to pay more than their share?

    BTW Republicans did have a Health Care reform plan that was even bipartisan but was ignored

    And Bush continued to read a book for less than an hour to school children while he waited for more info to come in what was he supposed to do launch missiles. BO stayed on vacation in Hawaii for 2 days after his hand picked Neopolitan said having passengers defeat terrorists shows the BO plan works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ldub View Post
    Here's a little something for both sides to wrap your brain around......

    http://www.rense.com/general89/pelos.htm
    Whenever I feel like posting a link to a story that is outrageous, I always do a little fact checking first because if it sounds too good to be true, it usually is.
    Saves me from getting egg on my face.

    In this case a simple google for "pelosi 757" will get you a little bit more background on that jet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stephen Biko View Post
    Whenever I feel like posting a link to a story that is outrageous, I always do a little fact checking first because if it sounds too good to be true, it usually is.
    Saves me from getting egg on my face.

    In this case a simple google for "pelosi 757" will get you a little bit more background on that jet.
    You are right, I shoulda - woulda - coulda...didn't... my bad.

    Wiping egg off face, making some yummy face egg lunch...

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