Help! I've been riced

I bought a muffler from Summit the other week and just put it on on Monday. It's a stainless steel polished chambered glasspack(but with stainless instead of glass) style muffler.

http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku

In my defense, it was only $60 out the door. It sounds like the fart-kazoo kind you hear those import kids driving(no offense to Subie or Evo owners out there). It doesn't even have the ricer type resonator tip on it or anything. So as a word of advice to people looking at exhausts, straight through types are not the way to go unless you like the "tuner" sound. I bought a flowmaster delta type muffler long ago and put it on my Jeep Comanche which improved the sound drastically, but this is definately not my cup of tea.

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Originally Posted by Ascinder

In my defense, it was only $60 out the door. It sounds like the fart-kazoo kind you hear those import kids driving(no offense to Subie or Evo owners out there).

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you stereotyper, you!

actually, you probably were thinking of the Honda kids :bgwo:

That's funny. You should ping Kenny and see what his setup is. His VX rumbles quit nicely.

Also, I'm gonna need your and Clint's help soon. :) :) :)

Bart

I'm down to help out whenever you are ready. I have any and all tools for whatever you need. I can also bring that welder over, but you'll need a large 230v receptacle ~$20 from lowes or depot. The verdict is evidently out on the muffler. My dad heard it and didn't think it sounded ricey, so it's up to you(and Clint) and the gang I hang out with at coffee to decide once and for all.:confused:

Uh huh, you have all the tools you need, but it sounds like you are lacking any of this....

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/dericer.jpg

:p

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Originally Posted by Ascinder

I'm down to help out whenever you are ready. I have any and all tools for whatever you need. I can also bring that welder over, but you'll need a large 230v receptacle ~$20 from lowes or depot. The verdict is evidently out on the muffler. My dad heard it and didn't think it sounded ricey, so it's up to you(and Clint) and the gang I hang out with at coffee to decide once and for all.:confused:

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Cool man, thanks. I have a separate 220 plug in the garage, so you are saying that won't work? What does a 230v plug look like? What I really need to do is sand blast my jerry can holders and get some steel to finish that project. I want that done, my light bar, and the lift and new tires before Moab. Also, I want to get my stock VX brake pads put on and possibly stainless steel brake lines as well.

Bart

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/dericer.jpg

LOL, does it come in drums.....


Bart, 220 and 230 are essentially the same, depending on a variety of minute BS. What I meant was that the outlets in your house are typically not the kind used with a welder. You may need to put in a new outlet. I could sandblast your jerry cans at my dads, 'cuz the blaster isnt all that portable. I need to look at what you are doing for the lights again. I could mill some bar stock to get the angle, or we can use sheetmetal in the bending brake. Doing brake lines isn't hard, but properly bleeding the system sux. Lemme know.

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Originally Posted by Ascinder

Bart, 220 and 230 are essentially the same, depending on a variety of minute BS. What I meant was that the outlets in your house are typically not the kind used with a welder. You may need to put in a new outlet.

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Come by the new crib on Saturday, I'll be there all day. You can take a look at what I have to work with.

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Originally Posted by Ascinder

I could sandblast your jerry cans at my dads, 'cuz the blaster isnt all that portable.

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Cool, thanks. They are just caked with layers of OD Army paint and I want to strip that crap off and then respray em.

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Originally Posted by Ascinder

I need to look at what you are doing for the lights again. I could mill some bar stock to get the angle, or we can use sheetmetal in the bending brake. Doing brake lines isn't hard, but properly bleeding the system sux. Lemme know.

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Wait a tic, you have a bender? All I really need to do is cut off the posts and then re-weld them on at the correct angle. But if you have a bender, I could just grind a notch on them, bend all four to the right angle and then touch up the weld a little. That would be way easier.

Bart

PS - Was it you LDub who said I will never be done modding? :smilewink

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Originally Posted by nfpgasmask

PS - Was it you LDub who said I will never be done modding? :smilewink

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It wouldn't surprise me...I've been known to interject a bit of reality into otherwise silly statements...:rolleyesg

BTW, Big CONGRATS on the new abode.:thumbup:

Sorry to jack you're perfectly good thread Ascinder...to get back on topic, when I installed my Borla muffler, I found it to be too "raspy & rough around the edges" sounding. I found a perforated cone insert (I think from Summit Racing) that I was able to persuade into the stock 3" tip & secure with a bolt.
It took just enough of the "rough edges" off the exhaust note.

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Originally Posted by Ldub

It wouldn't surprise me...I've been known to interject a bit of reality into otherwise silly statements...:rolleyesg

BTW, Big CONGRATS on the new abode.:thumbup:

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Thanks, homee!

:) Bart

Here's a link to the insert I was talking about earlier, not cheap, but well made (stainless) & they do mellow it out by a Db or three.:_wrench:

http://store.summitracing.com/egnsea...115+4294865320

Vortex cone inserts from Dynatech easily install near the exit of the header collector or muffler outlet to reflect and dissipate sound energy, reducing the decibel level. Because the open area of the cones is greater than the area of the collector or exhaust pipe, there's no significant backpressure, so you reduce noise with little or no power loss. The cones are made from T-304 stainless steel and weigh less than 1/2 lb. each.

Might as well add "The Look" to go with the sound...lol.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...4/43/Poser.JPG

Well, fixed the high pitched whine I've been getting......no, I didn't dump the girfriend:p I got one of these:

http://static.summitracing.com/globa...cci-3d102r.jpg

http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=CCI%2D3DI25R&N=70 0+4294923429+4294922711+400019+115&autoview=sku

off of the clearance rack at Summit for $10 and a set of twin Hookers:eek::




























http://static.summitracing.com/globa...21431hkr_w.jpg

http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku

for $15. That and $10 in exhaust hardware just saved my poor hearing and ended the period where I was emabarassed to drive my VX. Also, there has been a noticeabe throttle response as verified by the butt dyno. Just remember kids, straight through pipes are not you friend. All said and done though, I gained several inches of muffler ground clearance, and dropped over twenty pounds of dead weight, and the VX sounds better to boot.:bwgy:

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Originally Posted by Ascinder

Well, fixed the high pitched whine I've been getting......no, I didn't dump the girfriend:p I got one of these:

http://static.summitracing.com/globa...cci-3d102r.jpg

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Whats the lift and duration on that crankshaft?:bwgy::bwgr::smilewink:grinr::bgwp:

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Originally Posted by Jolly Roger VX'er

Might as well add "The Look" to go with the sound...lol.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...4/43/Poser.JPG

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Ba-F'n-Ling-alisious baby!!!!!!:rotate:

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Whats the lift and duration on that crankshaft?

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Well, it was an out of box special, so no information:rolleyes: You know how hard it is to time a muffler without knowing that......
http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:...g%2520head.gif

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Originally Posted by nfpgasmask

That's funny. You should ping Kenny and see what his setup is. His VX rumbles quit nicely.

Also, I'm gonna need your and Clint's help soon. :) :) :)

Bart

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Ya rumble was putting it nicely. since last Moab I added glass packs to each pipe. Much Much Much nicer now. Not so many old people driving by me with a scowl and their fingers in their ears nowadays...

Ldub is right, those tail inserts just vanish after a little while - my shop wouldn't consider them.

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Ldub is right, those tail inserts just vanish after a little while - my shop wouldn't consider them.

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The stainless cones you mean? My crankshaft looking insert looked very thick and sturdy I think the tailpipe would burn out before it did.