Thanks for the responses. After reviewing recommendations I am going with the walker quiet flow 3, glass packs and cats. My next question has to do with damage control. Obviously I made a mistake with lack of experience in VX and cars in general. I would like go know the logistics in how to undue what I did. 120 for a weld job from a backyard welder(welds look really nice regardless of sound). So now I have a muffler I hate that I am almost certain I cannot return to Oriley. How do I get rid of a new 80 dollar muffler? Should I cutt it off and craigslist it? Which glass packs are tried and true? Where shall I find appropriate cats? Which method of installation should be done? 120 2 welds and after the 2 sound interventions are purchased is 4 welds for cats, 4 welds for glass packs and two more for muffler. At his origional price that makes 1200$ for weld and no parts. Good lord, I might just park it by the border and buy a different VX with the insurance money(currently living in El Paso). I'm sure those Mexican fellows would love that SUV.