Thats the second time someone has "known" exactly what I would say, and based it on a gross and sweeping mischaracterization of my views. Circmand and now you Eb? Heck, I don't blame the end of civiliation as we know it on you and your like at all, largely because I think that we are not facing such an end. Disagreeing with you or Marlin on the nature of poverty, economy and ethnicty is not at all the same as blaming you for an imagined dsytopian future consisting of survivalist bug out fantasies.