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    MPG is usually around 13-16 mpg. A few have reported a bit higher, but if bigger tires are added, figure that range.

    Parts availability: Many of your points are very well considered. We do have some concerns, especially as time goes on, about availability. The body panels have become the hardest to find parts. The VX does share several mechanicals with certain Troopers & Rodeos....have to read up on the forum for specifics. C4C was great for the VX as several clunkers being parted out have shown up on ebay recently.
    We have a good contact with an Isuzu parts guy at a Missouri dealership (St. Charles) who gets us whatever Isuzu parts are available in the U.S. for a discount. Don't know about anybody getting parts from Japan. Take a look on ebay and search "vehicross"...it will give you a really good idea of what kind of replacement parts are available, both OEM and after market.

    Oil consumption: This issue is all over the map. Some have experienced none, while others have experienced up to 2 qts/1000 miles. There's a general feeling that the 99s and early 2000s tend to have the consumption problem. One member "iamironman" said he did a ton of research on this and believes Isuzu changed something (I can't recall right now, something to do with piston #5 I think....search will find it) in late 2000 models and improved the oil issue, and then changed something again, that allegedly "fixed" the problem. There's also a thread on the forum about blown engines. Most are from oil deprivation resulting in a thrown rod. There have been several reports where the oil level just drops dramatically & quickly and the engine has blown up.

    Recently we started a poll on oil consumption by year, by quantity used in 1000 miles. It's not scientific of course, but it's interesting, the MAJORITY of respondents have NO oil consumption. http://www.vehicross.info/forums/sho...threadid=17228

    Another thing to keep in mind is that there are many many VXs out there with over 100k miles, and a few now with 200k, so you can't complain about that type of longevity! Mine has 69k and it acts like a new engine.

    One issue regarding the oil consumption involves the PCV valve. It apparently sticks quick easily and allows oil to be consumed. Most members are emphatic about changing the PCV valve every oil change.

    I myself have had my 2001 for 15 months now and have changed it 3 times, 2 of which it was faulty. So we all keep a supply of these on hand. Several but not all have reported no oil consumption after replacing the PCV frequently.

    Many of us have had to purchase our VX from many miles away, seems there tends to be more available in the East and FL. Mine came from VA, and I paid to have it shipped to AZ. Mine is rust free, but some have had very minor problems with rust, particularly on the front bar, under the cladding.

    The OEM roof rack is so rare now that it's practically worth it's weight in gold. Many of us have them, but many find they want one after they get their VX. I recently procured 3 roof racks (all used of course) for fellow members by begging ebay sellers that were unsuccessful in selling their VX, to sell me JUST the roof rack for about $330. I'm looking for 2 more right now. Seems I have the knack of talking some people out of things

    Some have added a cargo basket (usually a Yakima LoadWarrior, or Thule Xpedition 695, or 696, or the Black Widow basket. I have the LW for when I carry a full size spare off road, and I just got the Thule 695 this week off ebay for a killer price. I like the look of both. Check out my gallery.

    The interior IS a bit on the smaller side, but several guys are at least 6', 6'2" and they fit, depends on how long their legs are. There's been a few that are just too tall to fit comfortably. The Recaro seats are fantastic and have a leg extension bolster in front to support long legs.

    Many owners have removed the rear seats. All have said that it's extremely difficult to get into the back...only good for small kids. I sold my back seat to another member. Several of us put up a nice dog barrier and carry the pups in the back just fine!

    The VX was marketed truly as a PUV Performance Util Vehicle. It only has 215 hp but weighs about 4100lbs...so myself & hubby having had two BMW M series vehicles...it does not seem fast to us....but it's more than adequate...I'm not out to burn rubber. Where it shines and is amazing is in the off road capabilities. It's full time 4 wd on the U.S. spec edition, so there's no getting out to lock hubs. The 4lo and 4 hi are controlled inside the cab. The JDM edition does have 2wd/4wd. It also has a "Torque on Demand" TOD system, you can read up on that. Many have put on larger tires (OEM were 245/60-16 for 1999, and 245/60-18 for 2000 and 20001). We've found we can get 285/60-18s with just minor trimming of the front cladding. MANY have lifted it anywhere from 1-4" generally, with more cladding trimming.

    The fun factor is off the chart for the VX. The looks you get are incredible. Many many times a person thinks it's a new model because of it's way ahead of it's time styling. Most of us on the forum have a full blown "addiction" to this little truck. It's really an incredible truck and almost universally, none of us would trade it for anything! (There's even a poll on that too! )

    It definitely has it's pros and cons, but we love them and this forum is like no other on the net. Since we're a smaller group by default, we're a close knit family really, and are very very helpful. And besides that, we're a really fun group too! Some crazier than others!

    A huge plus for you is that you sound like you can do the mechanical/ wrenching yourself for all or the majority of stuff. That alone would allay any concerns I would have.

    Hope this helps. Again, the fun factor and addiction is off the charts!

    p.s...thought of starting a kind of "check list" for potential buyers to ask sellers. I'll start this in another thread too. Please add on everybody to make the list better....

    ~electric windows work properly or bind?
    ~window regulator /motor been replaced?
    ~any oil consumption?
    ~chrome wheels peeling?
    ~Any ABS light problems?
    ~OEM CD player still work correctly or ERR3 code?
    ~brand & model of tires & approx tread remaining
    ~any alignment issues?
    ~timing belt changed?
    ~original OEM brake pads or replacements?
    ~any service history records?
    ~last time & what fluids have been changed?
    ~what type of fluids (synthetic oil or regular, motor oil, diff, tranny, transf case)?
    ~how long have you owned it?
    ~Where has the care resided over it's lifetime?
    ~any known repairs?
    ~any fluids dripping, ever?
    ~ever taken off road?
    ~any problems with TOD?
    ~any extra parts on hand?
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    WoW Kat...whatt'r the odds?...

    That is word for word what I was gonna say...

    Welcome Vette! Once the bug has bitten, it only gets worser...
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    Hmmm...
    Name's Gregg,
    Restored a musclecar,
    Only wants a sporty 2-dr SUV,
    Is mechanically inclined.

    I think you're me from an alternate dimension.

    Finding the "right" VX is the hard part. Mileage shouldn't be the biggest factor. Mine has just over 120k miles, and anybody who has seen it can tell you it is mint. I've had zero oil consumption, and no major mechanical issues. Take your time, there is probably a pristine gem in someone's garage just waiting for you.
    Gregg
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cobrajet View Post
    Hmmm...
    Name's Gregg,
    Restored a musclecar,
    Only wants a sporty 2-dr SUV,
    Is mechanically inclined.

    I think you're me from an alternate dimension.

    Finding the "right" VX is the hard part. Mileage shouldn't be the biggest factor. Mine has just over 120k miles, and anybody who has seen it can tell you it is mint. I've had zero oil consumption, and no major mechanical issues. Take your time, there is probably a pristine gem in someone's garage just waiting for you.
    Where? Where? I don't see it yet!

    FWIW, I am from an alternate universe. But, I'm pretty sure that's different than "two nanners in a peel"! I'm from the planet Obsession -- near the Corvetron and Isuzu sector.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ldub View Post
    WoW Kat...whatt'r the odds?...

    That is word for word what I was gonna say...
    lol, lazy git


    Welcome to the forum!!
    Speed Thrills, Boredom Kills!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ldub View Post
    WoW Kat...whatt'r the odds?...

    That is word for word what I was gonna say...
    OK first it was PK in my head, now it must be Dub, OMG somebody save me!!!! AAAAHHHH!!!!! Two nutz in a pod? No,, that would be T4B...

    I know what it is!....two nanners in a peel....

    Sorry vette, you've got lots of reading for any of this to make sense......

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    Quote Originally Posted by VX KAT View Post
    OK first it was PK in my head, now it must be Dub, OMG somebody save me!!!!
    Hey - let me outta here!!!!

    I feel like I am in a big empty box looking down on this wonderful rack.

    Oh wow - I am in VX Kat's head.
    You beauty, now what can I get up to???

    And so as not to thread jack -

    89Vette - so you have owned Jeeps and a Vette -
    Double the off-road-ability of a standard jeep, and you have a VX.
    On-road-ability of the VX would sit nicely halfway between your Vette and the Jeep.
    Coolness is about with the Vette. (Gotta remember, I am an Aussie, so Vettes are pretty scarce out here, and well sort after.)

    Decision easy.

    Good luck and welcome.

    PK
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    I can't even get into my own pants!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PK View Post
    On-road-ability of the VX would sit nicely halfway between your Vette and the Jeep.
    Not necessarily IMO. With some minor suspension mods and offset 60 Series tires/wheels, my Jeep had a very wide stance. Cornering went up by leaps and bounds. Plus Cherokees only weight about 3000lbs. Considering my vette weighs 3400, this always bothered me! LOL My Grand Cherokees weighed about 3750. Last night, I just found where VX's top the scales around 3900lbs! WTF! How is it that heavy? Isn't is smaller than a Grand Cherokee?

    Consider power-to-weight ratio (since the 4.0L is similar to the 3.5L in power) by looking at a weight difference of almost 1000lbs, it doesn't sound like a VX could "keep up". IOW, I bet a Jeep would run circles aroung a VX on the street. (Make sure you understand I'm not criticizing the VX here, just pointing out the obvious difference -- on paper).


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    Quote Originally Posted by 89Vette View Post
    Not necessarily IMO. Cherokees only weigh about 3000lbs. I found where VX's top the scales around 3900lbs! WTF! Geez, how are they that heavy? Consider power-to-weight ratio (since the 4.0L is similar to the 3.5L in power) by looking at a weight difference of almost 1000lbs, it doesn't sound like a VX could "keep up". IOW, I bet a Jeep would run circles aroung a VX on the street. (Make sure you understand I'm not criticizing the VX here, just pointing out the obvious difference -- on paper).
    More digging...I found a site that provided 0-60mph times. For whatever reason, the VX's are 1-2 seconds faster than Cherokees. Hmmmmm.....

    I guess body shape (drag), and gearing might be better on the VX. Still doesn't seem right!
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    Tom do you need a pic to verify how aerodynamic...?

    Strange how 75% of the threads where VX KAT is involved we end up talking about racks. What up with that?

    OK to get this train back on the tracks...

    Quote Originally Posted by 89Vette
    Last night, I just found where VX's top the scales around 3900lbs! WTF! How is it that heavy?
    Because it's built like a brick sh*thouse, that's how.

    Isn't is smaller than a Grand Cherokee?
    Yup - and that's a major drawback if you have a lot of stuff or people to haul.

    Consider power-to-weight ratio .... a Jeep would run circles around a VX on the street.
    If you just consider the power to weight ratio it might look that way but the VX is geared low and the transmission shift points are matched well with the engine's power characteristics so it actually has a fairly "zippy" feel to it. The VX is not fast by any stretch of the imagination, but it's quick enough that it's fun to drive. And for a 2 ton vehicle with high ground clearance, it's surprisingly nimble. Once you get comfortable with the lack of visibility, you can slice through traffic like a border collie through a herd of sheep.

    Shocks were "one" of the parts I was concerned about them becoming obsolete.
    No worries there - those Kayabas are completely rebuildable and if you don't like how stiff they are, the compression damping can be altered via the shim stack. I wouldn't touch the rebound stack though - unless you're going the aftermarket springs/big tires route. Rebound damping is spot on for OEM springs and wheels/tires.

    If you decide to go for it and start looking at VXs, make sure to check the shocks for leakage. Dragging windows can be fixed with 50 cents worth of bungee cord and 30 minutes of your time but leaking shocks means serious ka-ching to rebuild if you want to stay with OEM. I don't know exactly how much - probably in the neighborhood of $600-$800 which believe it or not is half the price of new OEM. But even if you do it yourself (not advised if you haven't worked on shocks before) the parts are pretty expensive. If they're soft but you see no evidence of leaking fluid then you can probably get by with a nitrogen charge. (OR maybe no fluid visible means all the fluid leaked out and washed away years ago )

    They're the floating piston style so naturally the N2 leaks out over time. You will not be able to tell if they need nitrogen just by pushing down on a corner of the car - you can't push hard enough to cause cavitation - they will damp well and appear to be OK at slow shaft speed even if they have almost no nitrogen. Take it for a drive - if they need N2, whacking a few bumps will introduce air bubbles into the shock fluid and then you'll be swaying and diving and boinging down the road. Nitrogen is cheap though. If the VX of your desire has 100K+ miles on it you might want to figure the cost of shock rebuild into your negotiating even if they aren't leaking because like most all things the internals wear and the fluid gets thinner with use.

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    "Tom do you need a pic to verify how aerodynamic...?"

    I wish to respectfully decline your invitation as any response on my part would certainly result in cataclysmic results from one source or another.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

    Put a smiley after you say that Bub.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VX KAT View Post
    OK first it was PK in my head, now it must be Dub, OMG somebody save me!!!! AAAAHHHH!!!!! Two nutz in a pod? No,, that would be T4B...

    I know what it is!....two nanners in a peel....

    Sorry vette, you've got lots of reading for any of this to make sense......
    Love U 2 KAT

    Vette,

    The weight on the VX is prolly because of the full boxed frame. You're not gonna shave any significant weight off of a VX unless you REALLY think outsid the box - like tearing it all the way down and replace the frame with a custom built aluminum frame (which would be even stiffer and more prone to cracking). The bottom line is: don't get the VX if you want an economical car.

    As far as parts availability - some may be hard to find but if you're diligent and willing to put in the time, you'll be able to keep a VX operational for another 10 years without much problem. The primary concern with parts availability is if you are ever in an accident; the insurance company will probably total the VX even if you don't think it should be. There have been numerous examples of that in recent months.

    The locking hubs were mainly put on by certain members who are trying to improve gas mileage/decrease front end wear/set up for towing. There won't be any performance benefits (unless you like doing donuts in snowy parking lots).

    If you REALLY want to get hooked on the VX, go to the Download Section here on the forum. We put together a digital picture frame for Moncha back at Christmas. It's a zip file of about 700 pictures of members VX's. It'll take about an hour to look through them all.

    BTW - I've seen the other Gregg's Proton. It is mint & very impressive. He & rickshaw have the cleanest rigs of any on the forum.

    Don't be afraid to shop for a VX from a distance. I got mine from MO & live in VA. You should be able to get one of our members to check out any that you find & let you know if it's worth it. It only cost about $1K to have mine delivered.

    Tom

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    Quote Originally Posted by VX KAT View Post
    The interior IS a bit on the smaller side, but several guys are at least 6', 6'2" and they fit, depends on how long their legs are. There's been a few that are just too tall to fit comfortably.
    I was worried about leg room when I first bought my VX, but i'm 6'6" and I fit just fine

    VX KAT covered most of your questions, so I will only add one thing... I replaced my jeep with a VX and it was the best decision ever!!

    Good luck with the search

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    Quote Originally Posted by VX KAT View Post
    MPG is usually around 13-16 mpg.

    p.s...thought of starting a kind of "check list" for potential buyers to ask sellers. I'll start this in another thread too. Please add on everybody to make the list better....

    ~electric windows work properly or bind?
    ~window regulator /motor been replaced?
    ~any oil consumption?
    ~chrome wheels peeling?
    ~Any ABS light problems?
    ~OEM CD player still work correctly or ERR3 code?
    ~brand & model of tires & approx tread remaining
    ~any alignment issues?
    ~timing belt changed?
    ~original OEM brake pads or replacements?
    ~any service history records?
    ~last time & what fluids have been changed?
    ~what type of fluids (synthetic oil or regular, motor oil, diff, tranny, transf case)?
    ~how long have you owned it?
    ~Where has the care resided over it's lifetime?
    ~any known repairs?
    ~any fluids dripping, ever?
    ~ever taken off road?
    ~any problems with TOD?
    ~any extra parts on hand?
    Considering weight, I guess I know why they don't get better mpg. Any obvious places to remove weight?

    Also, nice overall explanation and list for a buyer. Thanks VX Kat!

    Since you don't have to lock front hubs (with TOD), why would this be listed as an upgrade on the recent Proton for sale?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 89Vette View Post
    Considering weight, I guess I know why they don't get better mpg. Any obvious places to remove weight?

    Also, nice overall explanation and list for a buyer. Thanks VX Kat!

    Since you don't have to lock front hubs (with TOD), why would this be listed as an upgrade on the recent Proton for sale?
    I believe you're referring to "crossman"s Proton. I "believe" he and a few others (travelin2) have done the AISIN hubs so they CAN run in 2wd and be towed. (Crossman used to tow his Proton behind motorhome). Guys help me out here.
    Travelin2 just did some major mods to tow his behind his motorhome too.

    One thing I forgot to mention...the OEM shocks are KYBs with reservoirs, which I believe made it the only production car to ever have reservoir shocks as OEM (read that somewhere). These shocks are very high end (around $200 each) and give it tremendous off road capabilities. HOWEVER, many of us have found the kidney jarring ride on rough roads (like dirt/gravel) to be just too much, and many have swapped out for the Rancho XL9000 with the 9 way adjustments (me included). It makes the ride oh so much more civilized on my dirt road here in the boonies where I live. ON road is no problem with the OEM shocks.

    To reduce weight...about the only thing I think ya can do is remove the 65lb back seat ...no seriously, I can't recall anyone mentioning anything. Remember I said, yer not gonna burn any rubber with this truck, but it moves pretty dang good despite being 2 tons!!

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