Recovery /snatch straps 101...to use Billy's words....

[VX KAT]

Thanks Justin & Billy-

One of my better traits has always been I know what I don't know & know when to ask before I fall off a cliff.......
Thanks for always grabbing me away from the cliff! After I get all the info, I'll give it to my off road shop so they can do it right .

Is that front hook strong enough or should I definitely plan on having at least one D-mount attached up front? I'm not going to do a Frankenbumper, or a Marlinstein or a front receiver....just one or two secure recovery points up front is all I'm after.
What have others done if you don't have a front receiver?

Dub said the back eyelet is only intended as a tie down for transport, so is there something strong enough in the BACK to weld a mount on?

Thanks for any & all input!

[Ldub]

Here's a little reading material to further confuse you Sue...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolling_(metalworking) ...

Since I've used the front hook to recover, & to be recovered...
I'm thinking a rectangular base plate, with a clevis block welded to it, bolted to the frame in place of the stock hook, with the stoutest grade of metric hardware available, SHOULD be adaquate in most situations...thoughts?

That being said, I've used the stock transport tie down loop on the rear for recovery too, but have heard from those more experienced than I, that it's designed as a tie down for shipping only, & not up to the rigors of off road recovery.
That's why I only use my receiver hitch now, I know how built that is...

[ZEUS]

Thanks Justin & Billy-

One of my better traits has always been I know what I don't know & know when to ask before I fall off a cliff.......
Thanks for always grabbing me away from the cliff! After I get all the info, I'll give it to my off road shop so they can do it right .

Is that front hook strong enough or should I definitely plan on having at least one D-mount attached up front? I'm not going to do a Frankenbumper, or a Marlinstein or a front receiver....just one or two secure recovery points up front is all I'm after.
What have others done if you don't have a front receiver?

Dub said the back eyelet is only intended as a tie down for transport, so is there something strong enough in the BACK to weld a mount on?

Thanks for any & all input!

Yeah, I think you should go for the simplest method and probably replicate what's on the rig of the month. The rear loop should be fine for straight tugs but if used for lateral tugs it would probably get bent if jerked on.

[VX KAT]

Yeah Justin, I think that's what I should do too, now that I've learned much more. I can consider some weld on D mounts in the future. Tanks every"buddy" for learn'ed me on dis topic!

[tom4bren]

Yeah Justin, I think that's what I should do too, now that I've learned much more. I can consider some weld on D mounts in the future. Tanks every"buddy" for learn'ed me on dis topic!

Didn't mean to ignore you KAT. I just didn't respond since the more knowledgeable folks beat me to it.

Tom

[ORW VXr]

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[VX KAT]

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[crotchrocket]

Yeah, I think you should go for the simplest method and probably replicate what's on the rig of the month. The rear loop should be fine for straight tugs but if used for lateral tugs it would probably get bent if jerked on.

Thats a good point! the rear IS strong but i have never had a lateral pull on it!!!!

[Triathlete]

I'm thinking a rectangular base plate, with a clevis block welded to it, bolted to the frame in place of the stock hook, with the stoutest grade of metric hardware available, SHOULD be adaquate in most situations...thoughts?

That would work.

Whenever I finally get my bumpers built they will have attachment points welded on....but until then I have just used the factory tie down holes. I think you would have to be stuck REALLY good to bend those.

[VX KAT]

Got 2 Crosby 3/4" shackles today, it fits on the rear eyelet, me likey!
but can't fit it on the front two holes (well, actually I only tried the front driver side). Not enough space width-wise down there to get pin open far enough to slip it through hole, it's at a slight angle. Tried it both ways too.

I might be able to get the next size down 5/8" on which is only 3.25 ton......so Billy how the heck did you get a 3/4" in let alone a 1" on there....the BFH method? I'm not sure I want to beat on the metal thing there...

[Marlin]

Got 2 Crosby 3/4" shackles today, it fits on the rear eyelet, me likey!
but can't fit it on the front two holes (well, actually I only tried the front driver side). Not enough space width-wise down there to get pin open far enough to slip it through hole, it's at a slight angle. Tried it both ways too.

I might be able to get the next size down 5/8" on which is only 3.25 ton......so Billy how the heck did you get a 3/4" in let alone a 1" on there....the BFH method? I'm not sure I want to beat on the metal thing there...
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Those are actually not recovery points, I use mine as such, but the last time I used the front one, it actually bent that tab all up. Had to bang it back into place with a sledge. That means it is even weaker now. But they do look awesome!!!
Recovery points should be attached to the frame, such as our front tow hook. A hitch insert would work as well since it bolts directly to the frame. I think maybe those holes were for shipping tie downs?

[VX KAT]

My front end has been rearranged by a rock or two apparently...they just fit!

Oh, I see, the "BFR" method.....

Those are actually not recovery points, I use mine as such, but the last time I used the front one, it actually bent that tab all up. Had to bang it back into place with a sledge. That means it is even weaker now. But they do look awesome!!!
Recovery points should be attached to the frame, such as our front tow hook. A hitch insert would work as well since it bolts directly to the frame. I think maybe those holes were for shipping tie downs?

Yeah, that was pointed out earlier in the thread, if I called them recovery points that's just me calling me that, and I've decided to just go with them for now, no front receiver etc....