The rear suspension axel combo on the VX is a masterpiece. There’s nothing I’ve ever seen that could give the kind of on road performance and off road strength and articulation that it can. Justin’s right it just seems wrong.
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The rear suspension axel combo on the VX is a masterpiece. There’s nothing I’ve ever seen that could give the kind of on road performance and off road strength and articulation that it can. Justin’s right it just seems wrong.
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x3 You don't put graffiti on a RembrandtOriginally Posted by kodiak
The rear suspension axel combo on the VX is a masterpiece. There’s nothing I’ve ever seen that could give the kind of on road performance and off road strength and articulation that it can. Justin’s right it just seems wrong.
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Well, from where *I* sit, I've seen lots of mods done to VX's that I personally consider very VERY "wrong"...
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder - so are "mods" based on intended/future "applications". For the application of an AWD over-the-road, go 'most anywhere (read: Anywhere there's SOME kind of road!) vehicle, a proper IRS assembly makes a GREAT deal of sense! Fact is, this is a VERY short-wheelbased, heavily sprung/shocked rig with pretty big wheels/tires - ya' feel every PEA you drive over on the road! IRS would most certainly improve the VX's "road manners". Now if you're using the VX for a "rockcrawler", not so much...
The rear suspension axel combo on the VX is a masterpiece. There’s nothing I’ve ever seen that could give the kind of on road performance and off road strength and articulation that it can. Justin’s right it just seems wrong.
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I see what you’re saying. It just seem like the minimal amount of on road handling you would gain, if any would be over shadowed by the amount of off-road terrain handling versatility you would loss. It would turn the VX in to a BMW x6.
Example Vid. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHK_3...e=channel_page
Well, from where *I* sit, I've seen lots of mods done to VX's that I personally consider very VERY "wrong"...
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder - so are "mods" based on intended/future "applications". For the application of an AWD over-the-road, go 'most anywhere (read: Anywhere there's SOME kind of road!) vehicle, a proper IRS assembly makes a GREAT deal of sense! Fact is, this is a VERY short-wheelbased, heavily sprung/shocked rig with pretty big wheels/tires - ya' feel every PEA you drive over on the road! IRS would most certainly improve the VX's "road manners". Now if you're using the VX for a "rockcrawler", not so much...
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Actually, stylistically, that BMW X6 looks really nice. But then I also thought that AM SX4 was cool lookin.
Of course there were alot of bastardisation of cars and 4WD underpinnings like that video of the History of the VX shows. But to do hardly noticable improvements that make a car a smooth custom vehicle including suspension stuff is really improving. Just look at all those Lowriders out in Cali. Certainly not for off road but cool none the less.
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“Improve the road manners of the VX.” Ganzman, have you test driven a VX yet?
This is a kit that might work.
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Kodiac that is a brilliant setup. What is it a Corvette IRS?“Improve the road manners of the VX.” Ganzman, have you test driven a VX yet?
This is a kit that might work.
You're so right. The last thing that the VX can be accused of is giving a comfortable ride.
Where can someone get a setup like that?
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Take a look.Still not as cool as the stock VX rear. But to each his own.
https://factoryfiveparts.com/product...cat=267&page=1
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So, its not just me? The VX has to be the worst suspensioned car of all time on and off-road. Pitch and roll are the worst. I've tried everything within reason to settle this little beast down. I can't believe it won its class in the 1999 Dakar rally, must have been the only car in that class or it was so modified that it was unrecognizable.
My suggestion is jack up the body and pull another chassis under it, probably the cheapest solution. P.S. The Axiom doesn't have IRS.
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I somehat agree as I have most recently experienced some pitch and roll whereas the rear-end wanted to "step-out" on me violantly while traveling at higher speeds on uneven pavement during hard cornering on both city streets and the freeway (shoddy repaired pothole surfaces around corners creating a very bumpy, uneven surface).
At every experience, I was exceeding the posted speed limit and going way too fast for conditions (my fault). As a cure, I've since readjusted my driving habits and slow down appropriately and try to pick a more refined smoother line on the street/freeway as to avoid the bumpy uneven surface. The VX seems to agree with the less aggressive driving style on uneven surfaces.
Consequently, my best advice is to slow down and pick a smoother line while driving. Give it a try, and the VX will thank you.
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Yes thanks - about 50 miles under quite a few (on-road) conditions. VERY impressed w/the steering response and turning radius; acceleration was good, braking was pretty good. I was able to dial in the seating to be pretty comfortable; visibility was adequate except out the rear window, but the ride was VERY "jittery"or "busy". I don't mind a "firm" ride; hell, I drive a Porsche and a Chrysler 300C SRT8! IMHO, the VX could greatly benefit (at least ON road) with more compliant springs/shocks at minimum; IRS would probably help some too, but is probably cost prohibitive. It pretty much is what it is. I can live with its foibles, but knowing me, I would certainly start messing with the spring rates (I'd likely have a set custom made in a "variable rate" configuration) and I'd try to talk Koni into making their FSD shocks for VX. Custom wound springs are not THAT much $ to have done, and changing out coils is relatively easy with a proper spring compressor...I'm up for the challenge!
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What about taking the front suspension from a donor VX switching it around and putting it in the rear? Now that should go really well. All VX parts!
I have 2 models VX. I think I'll try that front axle switch on the model and see how it fits!
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That just requires some reverse cut gears.
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sorry about my last post, i didnt mean to be aggressive towards your idea i just dont understand it...
perhaps you would have an intelligent argument for doing it... in comparison to most of the people who lower suv's and trucks just because everyone else they know does it...
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Do you think those silly Lamborghini doors look good on the VX?
I don't! I'm not suggesting sliding doors so it will look like a van. I am suggetsing them so they will be as unique as the rest of the VX. I saw them on the proposed Mini SUV and they looked awesome. Besides I'll bet 90 % of VX drivers have been caught parked sideways on an angle and trying to operate those heavy doors up against gravitys pull usually leaving a big gash in your leg as gravity takes over and closes the door for you before you get your leg fully in or out of the vehicle.
Now imagine the same off kilter operation with doors that slide open. Pretty cool Huh!? I ain't as krazy as you think.
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