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[Joe_Black]

Great post Pho2gr4! I admin two separate forums much like this for collectors and enthusiasts of vintage Caterpillar equipment, and the political discussions there are most notable for not being particularly divisive. Most of the folk into that particular hobby are generally cut from the same cloth, which is very interesting considering the international nature of our 4000+ membership.

Here, very different. The VehiCROSS really spans a very broad spectrum across the demographic, which is why I typically stay out of the religion/politics discussions. I know I stepped in here, but my views are usually radical enough to keep most at bay. But as mentioned this isn't the best board to to engage in such ponderings without a thick hide and an open mind. :bgwg:

[PHO2GR4]

But as mentioned this isn't the best board to to engage in such ponderings without a thick hide and an open mind. :bgwg:

I'm more thick-minded...


Thanks for your post! I love everyone in here, regardless of political persuasion.

Except for the damn Belgians!!!!

[JHarris1385]

Wow we have a fool amongst us (or two). Speaking of the media brainwashed folks that take what the tv says versus researching for themselves. Threads like this should be banned.

4Bren - If I had enough energy (car wreck view "so I" thread) or time (I consider it a waste arguing politics on a car forum or even dealing with junkies at all) I would be helping you. Its an easy war for us to fight just sometimes not even oxy clean can help ansoiled brain.

Thank you.

[WiSDoM]

4000 hmm... 40,000+ wounded and maimed. why don't you do something to help and support these people that have sacificed so much for our country and other countries around the world. I want to thank all our veterans who are serving and who have served.

This war is not a GWB invention, it was US foriegn policy dating back to the Clinton Admin. so it doesn't matter who is president. When bad things happen they have to do what they believe is in the best interest of the country. Do you think things would be much different if Al Gore was president during 9/11 or JoHn Kerry won the last election? And do you think that will be different if Clinton or Obama or McCain is elected? They have to protect our best countries interests. I don't remeber Clinton doing a go job protecting American interests here on our soil or around the world. It easy to have a lot of friends when you don't enforce the rule of law. There is plenty of blame to go around and nothing get done doing it. So solve the problems.

Lets face it oil makes the world go round. We get 20% of our oil from the middle east the rest comes from north and south america. We Americans need to change our energy policy to benefit our country's economic issues. Start investing in our infrastructure, new oil refinaries, new powerplants, and start using all our natural resources. We need oil exploration on our soil and stop tying our wallets to foreign oil producing countries that are spreading anti-american B.S around the world. Also work on developing green energy technologies too that can be shared with the whole world so they can become energy independent as well. this will eliminate OPEC's hold on the world and help stop the spread of some of their old world ideologies.

Peace my Vx brothers and sisters.

P.S. HOT_WASABI_JUNKIE Cindy Sheehan called, she would like her CODE PINK panties back if your done wearing them.

[tom4bren]

I can't agree more with the last 5 posts. I guess I'm really more 'middle of the road' than I appeared in my blathering earlier - Sorrry.

I would like to apologise to HWJ. I broke my own cardinal rule about discussing politics - discuss, don't argue. I didn't go back and reread my earlier posts but I probably took some personal shots against you. That's wrong & I'm sorry. I may not agree with your political viewpoints but I have nothing against you personally - I even like your choice in vehicles

Suddenly my signature isn't funny anymore - time for a change.

[Scott Harness]

It's about time! Animal abuse is not funny. That has been bugging me since I first saw it.

[JoFotoz]

To paraphrase Voltaire....


“He who thinks himself wise, O heavens! is a great fool”

Wow we have a fool amongst us (or two).

jo

[JHarris1385]

Dont give me the opportunity to take at shot at you, like you just did at me.....
Given the fact that my comment was not directed towards you I congratulate you on your immaturity. You have received a pm. Take care.

One more reason I wish I never posted in this thread and believe it should be closed. Politics should not be venue that allows such comments to be said. I am done with this thread. I am politically charged and have been since birth my father has been a state rep among other numerous political positions. I have a degree in political science and have been on and still am on many national debate teams.

[JoFotoz]

Take a shot at me....????...!!!

Dont give me the opportunity to take at shot at you, like you just did at me......

DUDE!!!...I was simply returning YOUR random fire!
YOU set the tone ( took the first "shot" ) by calling others fools.



As for "immaturity" and who directed what , at whom...

Given the fact that my comment was not directed towards you I congratulate you on your immaturity. You have received a pm. Take care.

You invoked the "fools" ref , in an open post on an OPEN discussion board.

Please .....be good enough to a take as good as you give....!!!!


Ahh..religion & politics....always good for a REAL insight to others!

jo

[JHarris1385]

Oh I get it now. I had to re-read my post....

--"Wow we have a fool amongst us (or two). Speaking of the media brainwashed folks that take what the tv says versus researching for themselves. Threads like this should be banned."--

I guessed you considered yourself to be described in the above. It was not intended to be directed to you personally. I think we all know who. But considering you decided to respond solely directed to me says something about yourself. If you happen to reference the entire thread I would assume the tone was set elsewhere. As for first shot I think the refenced post of mine was on page three of this thread - if that says anything. There is another thread somewhere that junkie and I had a discussion so there is a slight history. Speaking of history junkie is known to do this. I think he gets a thrill out of stirring up stuff like this. So I will take the first step and not post again here, we can continue our own discussion through the current pm if desired. I wanted to clear up my name and give reason for my actions. I come here to discuss VX and get ticked when this pops up, that said justifies my actions. Plus being in pain from the car wreck adds to the frustration and allows me to get annoyed easily.

Take care.