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The install is very easy but I did run into one small SNAFU
The external C-clip has to be replaced. The groove used with the OEM slug is up on the splines. The one you need to use with the hubs is further out on the shaft. I assume if you buy a new set, it comes with the new C-clip. I bought mine used so didn't know till the VX was taken apart.
Fastenal had what I needed in the store. I still have the bag if anyone needs the part number.
I'd go ahead and post the part # here Tom, if for no other reason than for future research.
How different is the drive with the hubs installed?
I can use the part #.
Pretty pricey... Is this the cheapest source?
https://www.independent4x.com/mercha...1bdfee&x=0&y=0
I'd go with the Aisins myself. I got a pair from Pick & Pull for $80. You can usually find some on eBay as well. Warns are good too though.
Bart
I was reading back through some previous threads on this topic and came across this comment about Aisins from Marlin:
Thoughts?Quote:
Originally Posted by Marlin
Hmmm, yeah, I know exactly what brass part he is talking about. I also know that my Aisins are working good on my Trooper. I just bought a pair off a Trooper at Pick & Pull, cleaned them up, and installed them.
Personally, I think having a front locker on an IFS suspension is what broke Marlin's CVs, but that's just my opinion. :) As for manual hubs, Aisins are what Isuzus came with, but again, Warn is good as well. I just like the Aisins because they are much simpler in design that the Warns, and they look better.
Bart
Here's a (potentially dumb) question: My Borbets have a cover that goes over the lug nuts - will these interfere? If so that's probably a show stopper for me...
You mean a center cap that covers the lug nuts AND the hub (center of the wheel)? I would say most likey it would get in the way. If I installed manual hubs on my VX, I would just need to get rid of my center caps.Quote:
Originally Posted by vt_maverick
Bart
Yeah that's what I meant. Thanks... :(
OK, I'll look it up tonight.Quote:
Originally Posted by yellowgizmo99
When I pick up my rebuilt shafts, I'll add a pic of the two grooves.
Dang, those cover bolts were tight. Glad they were allen instead of phillips. It felt like someone put them in with locktite.
None at all. I don't have any shafts installed right now though so that's not suprising.Quote:
Originally Posted by vt_maverick
I only put the Warn hubs on so that when I get the driveshaft disconnect installed, I can tow it 4 down.
Potentially, you could modify the center caps with a cut out to access the disconnect. Not sure you're ready to take a knife to the borbets though.Quote:
Originally Posted by nfpgasmask
I wouldn't mind removing the covers (only two allen bolts) when I want to access them. My concern is that I'd have to make cuts just to fit them behind the covers (which is NOT an option :)).Quote:
Originally Posted by tom4bren
We can fit check one of your Borbets on mine if you like.Quote:
Originally Posted by vt_maverick
OK, here are the External Clip rings that I got from Fastenal:
http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/IMG_0187.JPG
http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/da.../IMG_01891.JPG
Here are the hubs after installation:
BTW, the 3 'extras' that I have are free to anyone who wants them. Just PM me where you want them sent.
Never did figure out why they come in packages of 5. Who would ever need an odd number???
PM sent.
**** it Billy, why do I have to be in class today? J/k, maybe we can test fit my Borbets once you have them installed.
that's what I was thinking, if I get around to it before you leave.
I hear you, we're racking up quite a to-do list! Thanks!
I'll get them in the mail to him today.Quote:
Originally Posted by vt_maverick
Ya don't need the clips to test fit the Borbets. You can install a hub without the clip for the test fit - should only take about 5 minutes.
Ash,Quote:
Originally Posted by vt_maverick
I found the clips that Travelin sent with the hubs. Your's if you want them.
Tom
Sure - what do I owe you?
Nada
... but if that makes you feel guilty, make a site donation in my honor:)
Don't forget to PM me your snail-mail addy!!!
For whatever reason Warn uses the outer groove that the old auto hubs used. Aisin and Superwinch use the larger inner groove that the drive plates use.
When I had stock rims and put my superwinchs on I used a 3.5" hole saw to cut out the center cap. Looked much better then without it.
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3.../Img_0361e.jpg
$80 for Aisins? Mine were $30 a pair at the local pull n pay here.
Now see, it's like I always say: If you're not real careful, you'll learn something new on this forum every day.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gizmo42
If you are grabbing hubs from a 'pick-a-part' you only need to worry about the clip rings if they are Warn hubs (Aisin and Superwinch re-use your existing clips). If the clips aren't available, don't let that stop you from getting the hubs since the clips are only a buck or two at any hardware store.