marlinstein gen 2 bumper

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07/05/2010, 03:59 PM
Marlin

marlinstein gen 2 bumper

I have it all welded and mounted. I still have to do the end caps, but I can't do that till my LED lights come in from Hong Kong. White LED running lights, and turn signals. So its all primered, looks funny white, but its starting to grow on me. I POR 15ed the front frame rail and crossmember. Neat stuff. I am speckled silver, white and ceramic red. It took a few hours to do it, but that stuff is no joke. It dries rock hard, and goes on super easy. Its very thin until it dries.
Once its all wired up, I will weld on the end caps, and rhino line the bumper and front cladding, and pending how that goes, may end up doing all of the cladding.
This bumper is much more boring looking. :( But now I can build a skid plate for it...

http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/IMGP1131.JPG

http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/IMGP1133.JPG

http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/IMGP1129.JPG

http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/IMGP1130.JPG
07/05/2010, 07:25 PM
vt_maverick

Good work Chris, it will definitely be interesting to see how it all looks once you put the Rhinoliner on. Do you plan on doing anything to cover up the rough lower edge of the cladding where it meets the bumper bar? Maybe you could use a long section of weatherstripping to make a nice clean edge and prevent water/mud from getting between the two surfaces? Just throwing an idea out there for you...
07/05/2010, 08:11 PM
RamAirZ

Looking good man, I like this stuff called Master Series better than POR15, basically the same product but ALOT cheaper lol. It's been used on some famous bridges and will withstand 15K hours of constant salt spray. I used it on a 69' Pontiac frame I did. Can't wait to see what it looks like painted!
07/05/2010, 10:41 PM
ZEUS

Awe man, that sucks... It looks MUCH better than the previous one! How can I talk smack if your bumper looks good?
...yeah, you're right, I'll find a way... :smilewink I think it will look pretty decent after the bedliner tho.

I like Mav's idea btw! :yeso:
07/06/2010, 06:52 AM
Marlin

VT_maverick, you read my mind. I am actually going to use pipe insulation, it flares out a bit and will wrap around the plastic. I wil rhino line over that, it works pretty well.

Justin, thanks....I think?
07/25/2010, 08:50 AM
Marlin

Finally got all the lights wired up and mounted. PITA to cut holes through that tubing for the LEDs. I used Jack's idea (PBkid) and used hitch wiring connectors for connecting the lights, that way it is easy to take off. I even lowered my headlights down a bit, when I was blinding guys in lifted trucks, I figured I needed to do something.
I called Herculiner to see if it would bond on RTV. They said yes, but not as well as metal, then I asked about acrylic glue gun glue, they had to call me back on that, but they said yes, better than it would RTV since it dries hard. So, I used the wifey's glue gun, and sealed all the lights up, better than epoxy or RTV, and I was able to trim it to look nice. I will post some night time pics this evening of the new lighting. Still need to fit some lights into the drive light housings. That will be later on. I also need to mount up a skid plate, I got a dent in the oil pan last trip. Can't believe that is the lowest part in the front of the truck, and there is nothing in front of it...silly design.
I will try and get it painted next weekend, but I am making a junkyard run on Sat, so that is one whole day gone. Gonna get some more switches, and parts for the new family member thats coming in a month or so (93 trooper RS), thread to follow on that.
07/25/2010, 06:11 PM
Marlin

Here are the pics and a few videos:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G41meg8-HCE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9QQgPZfx-Q

This pic came out kind of neat, first time I used the night setting on the camera. You can see that its dark in the other pics, but in this one, it looks daylight.
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/a...t/IMGP1426.jpg

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/a...t/IMGP1430.jpg

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/a...t/IMGP1429.jpg

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/a...t/IMGP1423.jpg
08/08/2010, 06:38 AM
Marlin

Wow, I must have pissed off just about everyone, no comments at all? Anyway, today is skidplate day. I am first making a front crossmember out of 2x3 1/4" angle iron. That will put it lower than the oil pan, and since I dented it last time out, I am surprised I didn't do this long ago. Stupid design. I already have the same piece up front across the where the factory tow hook frame mounts are. That will give me a nice flat, level mounting surface for the lower plate. I am also going to weld a crossbar across the bumper frame adapters. That will give the aluminum a much stronger backing. This thing should be two pieces as I see it. I will post up some pics as I move along.
08/08/2010, 07:56 AM
Scott Harness

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZEUS

Awe man, that sucks... It looks MUCH better than the previous one! How can I talk smack if your bumper looks good?
...yeah, you're right, I'll find a way... :smilewink I think it will look pretty decent after the bedliner tho.

I like Mav's idea btw! :yeso:

X2 You can't call it a monster anymore:bwgy:
08/08/2010, 08:19 AM
Marlin

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott Harness

X2 You can't call it a monster anymore:bwgy:

Yeah, now its just kind of boring. I think my last one was functionally superior to this one. Orion's style, does not help on steep approaches. The frame rails now stick out further than the bumper brackets, making them the first thing to contact rock. Not a good idea. That is why I have to fab up that cross bar. It will protect the frame rail ends and distribute the contact force over a larger area.

Skid plate idea on hold, in my typical fashion, I got under there, pulled the cross member down, cursed a bit at all the dirt falling in my eyes and mouth. Then I noticed the heat shield forward of the cat was rusted and I thought viola, thats whats been rattling. Screwed around with that, problem solved. Then I noticed one my transfer case bolts were loose, tightened that, and the checked all of em. Then I noticed that my rear drive shaft U joint was missing a bolt!! Not sure how long that his been gone? So then I dug around the garage to find one that fit, weird size, the bolt head is not much larger than the threads,so I need to go to the store...then I thought about how to mount my license plate since it isn't visible under the spare. See where this is going? I spent two hours fiddling around with stuff that I had no intention of doing. Then I took a look at the brake lines to see how hard that job was going to be since I still have yet to install my pretty SS red lines:)
Long story short, I built a hitch adapter to hold my license plate. Red paint is drying as we speak:) Put cross member back on, noticed a drip of tranny fluid on the drain bolt, but no marks in driveway, so it must be a very slow drip. No wworries there. Now its too hot to get anything else done. SO maybe next weekend, but I am supposed to go to junkyard to get all the parts folks have been asking about and some more switches.
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08/08/2010, 09:12 AM
Marlin

Here is the finished license plate project, I have been driving around since last year with the plate covered, no problems, I suppose it was just a matter of time.
Here are some painted bumper pics as well.

http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/IMGP1476.JPG

http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/IMGP1475.JPG

http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/IMGP1455.JPG

http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/IMGP1456.JPG
08/08/2010, 09:36 AM
rowhard

Quote:

Originally Posted by RamAirZ

I like this stuff called Master Series better than POR15,

Reads like it is pretty good stuff. http://masterseriesct.com/
08/08/2010, 10:37 AM
Triathlete

So, how many offroad trips you think it will take before the plate gets ripped from that location?:bwgy:

Also might want to check local laws, but most states require a plate light.
08/08/2010, 10:38 AM
RamAirZ

Quote:

Originally Posted by rowhard

Reads like it is pretty good stuff. http://masterseriesct.com/

http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/s...irZ/frame4.jpg

http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/s...irZ/frame3.jpg

http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/s...irZ/frame1.jpg

I love that stuff, works great and alot cheaper lol
08/08/2010, 11:06 AM
Marlin

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triathlete

So, how many offroad trips you think it will take before the plate gets ripped from that location?:bwgy:

Also might want to check local laws, but most states require a plate light.

I think the plate will be fine. 1/4 angle iron isnt goin anywhere, as for the lights, well, over a year with no plate, I figure I will be ok without a light. I rarely drive at night anyway. :)
08/08/2010, 03:40 PM
rowhard

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marlin

I think the plate will be fine. 1/4 angle iron isnt goin anywhere, as for the lights, well, over a year with no plate, I figure I will be ok without a light. I rarely drive at night anyway. :)

Just be careful IF you ever have one to many at the club and am driving home at night, that's the time the man will pull you over for it. No sense ruining a good career.
08/08/2010, 03:46 PM
Marlin

Quote:

Originally Posted by rowhard

Just be careful IF you ever have one to many at the club and am driving home at night, that's the time the man will pull you over for it. No sense ruining a good career.

1, I have a 5 and 3 yr old, no clubs for this guy
2, I do not drink and drive, nor do I tolerate drinking and driving.

It would be more likely for me to get pulled over because of the undercarriage neons, what are now called "rocklights". I could also be stopped for Urban Offroading...pics to follow. I know there is a thread about it somewhere on here or the Planet.
08/08/2010, 04:19 PM
Marlin

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triathlete

So, how many offroad trips you think it will take before the plate gets ripped from that location?:bwgy:

Also might want to check local laws, but most states require a plate light.

Mybad, I misinterpreted your comment, you meant the license plate, not the skid plate. No, the plate goes to factory spot when I wheel. I move the spare to the roof on the trails just in case a steep ascent.
08/09/2010, 05:31 PM
samneil2000

Looks good man.
10/05/2010, 01:47 PM
vt_maverick

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marlin

http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/IMGP1131.JPG

Found this today, did you see this before you started the Gen 2 bumper? Looks like you guys were on the same page, but why would this guy cut that much cladding and not put some sort of bumper there? Seems like he wouldn't need to cut that much just to fit bigger tires.

http://forum.4x4club.ru/uploads_g/12..._202_22433.jpg
10/05/2010, 05:52 PM
Triathlete

Quote:

Originally Posted by vt_maverick

Found this today, did you see this before you started the Gen 2 bumper? Looks like you guys were on the same page, but why would this guy cut that much cladding and not put some sort of bumper there? Seems like he wouldn't need to cut that much just to fit bigger tires.

http://forum.4x4club.ru/uploads_g/12..._202_22433.jpg

Hmmm? I don't know!:bwgy:
http://i370.photobucket.com/albums/o...g/P1010065.jpg
10/05/2010, 06:12 PM
Marlin

Damn, Billy, you beat me to it, I was gonna mention that you did a similar mod and it buys you quite a bit as far as approach angle...
10/06/2010, 07:19 AM
vt_maverick

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marlin

Damn, Billy, you beat me to it, I was gonna mention that you did a similar mod and it buys you quite a bit as far as approach angle...

There you go, should have thought of that. Plus it just looks better to cut it even all the way around I guess.
06/25/2011, 07:17 AM
Marlin

Just a follow up on this since its been quite a while.

The bumper is fine. As a matter of fact, its been on 5 wheeling trips since I built it. I had some approaches so tall/steep that I ripped the LED driving lights off of one side...lol. The bumper held just fine. Front rail caps have seen better days though.

I have since done other mods, so this kind of sat around. The trooper RS has been getting lots of love, and I am sure the VX is jealous. Her time is coming around again, new wheel bearings, new cb antenna, some TLC maintenance.