Way to rub in your "wealthness" Zeus!:bwgy::laughing::laughing:Quote:
Originally Posted by ZEUS
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Way to rub in your "wealthness" Zeus!:bwgy::laughing::laughing:Quote:
Originally Posted by ZEUS
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Originally Posted by Osteomata
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Originally Posted by Marlin
LOL...:laughing:Quote:
Originally Posted by VXR
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Originally Posted by Osteomata
HEY!!!...I believe "those people", or at least "them", was MY metaphor...:rotate:
A cel phon isn't a luxury iff'n I ain't pay'n fer it...:smilewinkQuote:
Originally Posted by ZEUS
In other news... holy FECES and any other word meaning excrement!!! ...I agree with so many of Chris's points I just might vomit. :bgwo: Next thing you know he will own a Jeep! ...And then, of course, he went and ruined it again... :(
Never saw this thread till this evening - WAAAAY too much fun!!!
I live in Utah - Whites have more kids than blacks or latinos do around here. Yet instead of taking money from others to support their fleets of family members they give 10% away. It's a great business model more than anything else. Our government is not... hence the economical issues we deal with.
I associate with some Africanese refugees who are more patriotic and responsible than many born-and-raised Americans... of any color. I fully believe they bring greatness as well as respectable diversity to this melting pot of a nation. However, I grew up in a border town in Texas and can tell you I predicted the future when my age was a single digit. The future is coming true yet I have already had time to deal with it... still not happy about it tho. The poor come in many a color... doesn't mean I care to pay for them. Harsh? Perhaps, but overall, and in general, in my experience the poor have brought it upon themselves and passed it onto their children. Give to those who only want to take and they will just keep taking... Nice guys get taken advantage of - we've been too nice.
Someone mentioned areas of the highest Latino immigration equaling low crime rates... that is partially because members of that society now need to be bilingual and many of the American-English speaking folk have been driven out, leaving employment voids. Having a job and responsibility means less need to thieve. So naturally some of those immigrants also became law enforcement... You don't arrest your cousin; you help him stay out of trouble... El Paso, TX was used to test the idea of a border wall - the results are why the rest of the border now has a wall. EP crime dropped dramatically but the Juarez crime skyrocketed afterward. To me, tax dollars well spent, yet also, too little too late. I believe socialistic healthcare is just a warning that existing illegal immigrants are going to be given amnesty. To me, tax dollars poorly spent.
back to taxes... does anyone else find it odd they tax unemployment:confused:
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Originally Posted by ZEUS
...since when did dear ol' dads insurance co$t preclude my constituional right to " life, liberty & the persuit of happiness?...or my "supposed" presumption of innocence until proven guilty?
Piss'n me on the presumption of possible guilt is....
VERY heavy handed for someone that calls him or herself an american. JMO.
What I do with my time away from work is MY business, as long as it has no effect on my attendance, or ability to perform the tasks that have been assigned to me, there should be no right to search my piss for "possible" guilt. What right are YOU willing to give up for the betterment of dads business?
If I'm caught doing something illegal by the LAW, then I deserve to be punished & scrutinized, but to be searched under the presumption of guilt?...seriously?
So if I see someone doing a crime, I should do nothing about it unless the law catches them??
Oops, I think I wasn't clear on this part. He has no choice but to test them. If he doesn't, his insurance rates go way up, and then he loses money. As a company that is trying to not outsource to the China, every penny counts. The VPs took huge paycuts in order to minimize layoffs. (We are talking about VPs that only make 100k a year, not 1.5mil a year) This a company that takes care of its people, if they are willing to contribute to the company. The idea being that if you have an incentive to see your company succeed, ie-stock shares, bonuses and so on, you will try harder.
He would rather not piss test except at hiring, of if they have an accident or whatnot. But with his insurance being a significant cost in the mix, he has to. He provides coverage to his full time employees, so thinking about how much health care costs, you can see why he would do this.
Sorry if that didn't come out the way it was supposed to.
Justin,
That is a much better way to portray what I was trying to say about the Mormons. It wasn't anecdotal, it was supposed to represent Mormon policy. As a rule, they (of course not all, calm down osteo) or rather as a culture, they do not let their members go on welfare, food stamps, government aid and so on. They take care of their own.
Here we go again, as a nation, PC BS has led to minority catering. I was under the impression that democracy fundamentally meant majority rules. Apparently it only rules so long as you don't offend or not coddle each minority, be it, color, ethnic, religious, sexual orientation or otherwise.
Its ok for the government to overstep its boundaries and take my money away from me, but when it comes to making them pee in a cup to get my money, thats going to far? Riiiight, that makes a lot of sense. Throwing the PC flag is a justified call, its not a cop out to be a bigot, although it wouldn't matter anyway. BO got all kinds of flack were referring to the Special Olympics with regards to his bowling skills. Who cares? Apparently, the uber minority of special olympics folks, and guess what, now you can't even say retard. How many words are going to be black listed? Watch the movie idiocracy, that is where we are heading.
We don't want people to be self sufficient, we want people to do what they are told, yet be free while doing it at the same time? Can't have both.
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Originally Posted by Marlin
Just a thought, no numbers or anything, but I don't think illegal immigrants want amnesty. It would destroy their niche completely. Right now they are in high demand because as an employee, they have a low overhead. No taxes, no insurance, no SS and so on. They can do the same job for half the cost. Make them all citizens, backdate their tax/ss/fees debt and now they can't work for below minimum wage anymore. That would ruin everything they have right now, and then a flood of more illegals would have to arrive to take their spot. No, if I was a hardworking illegal trying to make it in the US because Mexico and other Hispanic countries suck, making me a legal citizen would be the last thing I want. Driver's license, insurance, having to follow laws and so on. It would completely remove what makes me special and desirable.
Those positions at the bottom will still exist and need to be filled, that means more illegals will flock to fill them. Then those that were illegal are jobless and no longer competitive, and so become a bigger safety net burden?
Your are 100% right! They are entertainment shows, not reality. That is what makes them popular. No one wants to watch a show about a house full of illegal immigrants, that is reality, thats not entertaining. Its a novelty to see something rare, like a white family with 10 kids. Think of the more popular sitcoms, Family Matters, a black family portraying the role of the sterotypical white family, The Cosby show and so on. It is entertaining because for the most part, it is fiction. Much the same as your tv show examples above. Its the same reason we have shows like "Sweet 16" and Bridezilla. We hate those girls but they are not representative of what all girls are like, and that is the entertaining part.Quote:
Originally Posted by Osteomata
"Morals are gone" and yet the crime rate is the lowest it has been in decade
Really, did you realize that the US has the highest incareration rate as compared to any other country in the world.
The United States has the highest documented incarceration rate in the world. As of year-end 2009 the rate was 743 adults incarcerated in prisons and jails per 100,000 population.[4][2] At year-end 2007 the United States had less than 5% of the world's population[27] and 23.4% of the world's prison and jail population (adult inmates).[5]
Crime is at an all time low because inmates are at an all time high.
Goodness Gracious what have I started....:badhorse::bla:;puke2;:argue:
I hate to join the back and forth but I gotta throw my .02 in. I know first hand that there are folks here that aspire to get on social security. To them, that's making it. They would rather get it than work. I overheard a conversation between two African-American women. One was working at Target, checking. The other was a customer behind me in line. As I was checking out they struck up a conversation. The worker asked the customer where she had been. She said she hurt her ankle and had to get on social security. The checker then said oh yeah, me too. I been trying to get my social security too. I got heart problems.
Yes, you have a heart problem indeed... :madgray:
People don't realize that social security and other handouts takes peoples motivation away. People would now rather suck from the teet the nation rather than contribute to it.
Check out my blog Chris. I'm right there with ya. Too much going on in my head and needed a place to vent.
http://munfordsam.blogspot.com/
Alright folks its time for me to chime in. It is too late. Problems should have been dealt with years ago but were not. Now we are in a damned if we do - damned if don't situation. Government spending can NOT be cut. It is too much of the economy. If we cut it then the economy will DE-stimulate and go from recession to depression. Simularly taxes can NOT be increased. Our last hope is the rich. Yes the rich. those that have the ability to create wealth and jobs by creating a business that produces inovation and new jobs. If we tax them -then we remove that wealth that they would use to create businesses and jobs. There is much more to this but I don't want to be lengthy. Batten the hatches friends. The rioting you see overseas will break out some day on our shores.. in New York City with levels of civil disobedience we never thought could happen.
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Originally Posted by Ebenezr
Viva la revolution!!!
Why can't we cut aid to foreign countries, tax the piss out of companies who outsource, making it cheaper to hire at home? Why can't we tier the taxes on profit, making it ideal to make a fair profit, vice the gross billions in profit and so on. That would prevent them from raising prices to maintain their current bloated profits when they are forced to hire folks at home.
No offense Eb but that's exactly the kind of thinking that has gotten us where we're at. We've been sitting at the dinner table staring at our peas for decades - sooner or later we're going to have to eat them. Cutting spending and raising taxes will no doubt have significant and immediate negative effects, but in the long term that's what we have to do IMHO. Somewhere along the way our politicians lost their collective intestinal fortitude to make the right decision - they're primarily concerned about their ability to get re-elected, which is why you see all this "Oh no we can't even consider that, the consequences would be too great!" talk in the media. It's the consequences to their political career that are too great - we have weathered worse as a people in our past, and we can and should do it again to get to a better place.