If the originator of this thread (Handeeman) wishes to lock it up, I shall do so.
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If the originator of this thread (Handeeman) wishes to lock it up, I shall do so.
One more thought that hasn't been expressed yet - the benefits lost by a member leaving (irregardless of the monitary aspects).
I was counting on meeting up with VTmaverick & somebeach to run the Outer Banks next summer & I think it was somebeach who knew the trails.
Somebeach ... if yer still listening ... wanna 'play in the sand' next summer (I'll bring the burgers, dogs & grill)?
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Originally Posted by Gussie2000
I liked everything you said, Gus... I would like to believe people will donate on their own but I don't have much faith in people. Yes, times are tough for everyone and money is tight. I know though, this site grew to be more than Scott had initially planned. Tone informed us all how badly the server needed to be upgraded to handle the amount of bandwidth we were going through. Things were very unstable. The lot of us raised enough cash to fund the upgrade - YAY US! Scott still did all the work. This upgrade would not have happened if nobody took the initiative to make things happen. However, this also raised yearly costs a bit and has increased Scott's workload in managing the site. Several of us have developed a friendship with Scott - he is a wonderful person to know, with a great sense of humor and wit, and he looks out for others in seemingly every respect. I admire the man and personally it feels to me like we should be looking out for him. I hate how this topic ends up so often and we all know Scott does as well. I whole-heartedly agree that some of the tactics used to recruit support in the past should be looked upon with regret and for my part I do regret my own failed attempts and methods.
Still, the fact is, a decent and subtle reminder of the needs of this site is a good thing. I know this site works because of the work Scott has done to make it work and because of the money that is donated to meet the yearly costs. If someone chooses to not donate, that is fine - it is NOT a requirement - but the need is still there for enough kind people to fund Scott's on-going efforts. New members come along every month and they don't know Scott (Moncha), his situation, his health, his frustration, the work he puts in, nor the funds collected to make ends meet. I believe it best for people to be informed and therefore I encourage decent site support reminders. If a current member already knows Scott and chooses not to support the site financially they need no reminder nor history lesson nor abuse.
Just be gentle and respectful in our methods and there should not be a problem in keeping things civilized nor finding the needed funds to keep things up and running.
I still see no reason for Doug to leave and think he is over-reacting... which is something I know very well :bgwo: but whatever, good luck to ya.
In light of this conversation I humbly request to have the "Zoid" label taken off my name.
All ya gotta do is break 50 or 100 posts, I can't remember which...:yesgray:Quote:
Originally Posted by erland
At your current average of 10 per yr...well, you do the math...:smilewink
To put that goal on the fast track, twenty bucks changes you from "zoid" to site supporter...:thumbup:
The site supporter tag isn't showing up under anyone's name right now because the Boss was in the middle of a site upgrade when he started having some severe health problems...:(
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Originally Posted by Ldub
I don't think Larry read this thread :laughing:. I think that counts as harassment
Let me add something here that maybe not everyone knows, but perhaps will put some of this discussion to bed. Scott has been working on a system where those wishing to sell something (VX related of course) on the forum would have to pay a small amt of $$ to post. If you are already a donor to the site, of course you would not have to pay extra. I think its a pretty fair way of handling a touchy situation which seems to illicit good folk to have very different opinions. I ask everyone to practice patience and kindness until Scott can put the system in place.