I Miss "SomeBeach"

[handeeman]

I feel absolutely terrible. I certainly never meant to push somebeach away, I had hoped this would encouage him back. I'm very sorry.

[tom4bren]

I'm speechless. It's just wrong that someone was chased away like this.

At least he has an easy handle to remember so if I have a 'headlight polishing party' next spring, I can email him (the 'window fixin party was such a success).

[JoFotoz]

Handeeman..you have no need to feel "terrible" AT ALL.

I feel absolutely terrible. I certainly never meant to push somebeach away, I had hoped this would encourage him back. I'm very sorry.

Perhaps if anyone should feel bad..its me and the others somebeach talks of
that prodded him for a donation.

But frankly I don't....

When I first started posting here , I didn't even know there was a donation option
until it was "brought to my attention"...(PM's!)

I was grateful for the heads up ..and I certainly didnt feel "Chased away"



Truth be known , I would be happy to see a mandated membership fee.

We don't drive a gas miser , we don't drive a cheap commuter car ,
we don't fall into the 'barely afford to drive to work' category (dire circumstances excepted , as they do happen)....

...so 'in general' balking at $20 a year , when ya happily eat gas at about 17mpg , doesn't compute with me.


I guess it boils down to personal nature...

This Forum doesnt pay for itself.....
I STRONGLY believe that given the HUGE benefits gained from partaking of this site , we should ALL assume the responsibility to support it.

Forgive me if this is blunt..its sometimes a British trait...
....I taught Simon Cowell everything he knows!


jo

[ZEUS]

^^^I agree^^^ We ALL often say things that are not offensive - some people just take offense to them anyway - that's on them, not on me and not on you. Other times, we ALL DO say offensive things, and we get called out. Move on or move along... Doug chose to move along, period. His loss.

[vt_maverick]

I probably experienced the best case scenario for donation recruitment. I posted a WTB thread on something (child seat tethers maybe?) and someone PM'd me to offer theirs, as long as I agreed to donate to the site. Given that I was willing to pay at least $20 for the part + shipping, it was a no-brainer. Not that everyone should recruit that way, but it really demonstrated to me the value ($ and otherwise) in supporting the site.

[The Lompican]

Deermagnet - "I also went to stealth mode when logged in that hides my online status so no one can stalk me in the forums."


How do you go into stealth mode?

[deermagnet]

How do you go into stealth mode?

Quick Links>Edit Options
It's the first choice on the top and it's called invisible mode. Check the box and hit 'save changes' at the bottom.

I've been using that for many years. It allows me to move undetected among the shadows.

Mark

[SomeBeach]

Perhaps if anyone should feel bad..its me and the others somebeach talks of
that prodded him for a donation.

But frankly I don't....

Please forgive me but I had to check in one last time. I wanted to see how members felt about what I experienced. I never mentioned names but JOFOTOZ proudly boasts how he was one who feels this should be a paid site. Well JOFOTOZ this is NOT YOUR SITE and you have no right to run people off or make YOUR OWN rules. Nothing wrong with an opinion but you need to know your place. And members who choose not to donate need to realize that members like him think you are free loaders and should not be allowed to use the site. Mind you that JOFOTOZ is just another member but he takes it upon himself to criticize those who don't donate. If you read his forums you will see how he pats himself on the back constantly about being a site supporter. He acknowledges that he is blount so I too shall be blount. If you feel there should be a mandated fee discuss this with Moncha....IT'S HIS SITE AND HIS RULES! So members look out for those who think their OPINIONS should be rules. Who knows, maybe JOFOTZ will next say that silver VXs shouldn't be allowed on this site next.
Handeeman, thanks for being a great guy. This is not your fault.
What a shame that a few opinionated persons can screw up a good thing. I hope this forum ends without members feeling they should take sides. Since JOFOTZ is staying and I'm leaving it might be easier to just agree with him. Just be careful to obey his rules or you may be next to get blasted.
And JOFOTZ remember this is not your site. AGAIN....THIS IS NOT YOUR SITE so don't throw your rules around. And never send me another personal message...you don't know me. Had you felt a little bad for your inappropriate PM to me I would have respected you. That is not the case.
But you have been around longer and have more VX friends so I leave this site to you. Run off the ones that don't agree with you and sleep well. Maybe you can launch a campaign to rid the site of all non supporters. How proud you will be.

[Riff Raff]

SomeBeach--- Thank you for being a true "stand-up guy". I sincerely hope you can find it in your heart to re-visit our family. I realize some relatives of our family can be different; heck, you should sit at my Thanksgiving table and watch some of my own real relatives at work. In any event; please come back to us, as we welcome you (and all VX'ers) with wide open arms regardless of monetary status. If not, then please feel free just to "lurk" in the shadows so you & your VX remain in top condition.

[vt_maverick]

Suggest we lock this thread before it goes further downhill...

[The Lompican]

Quick Links>Edit Options
It's the first choice on the top and it's called invisible mode. Check the box and hit 'save changes' at the bottom.

I've been using that for many years. It allows me to move undetected among the shadows.

Mark

Thanks Deer Magnet - I'll try that.. I ran into this same problem before in the past. (Being mentioned by name)

JoFotoz - "9 people online...using this site.....


JoFotoz, 4X4 UFO, CoastieCosta567, crager34, garfull, jdm monkey, mdwyer, mikemol, The Lompican

...3 are paid up members.

The other 6 know who they are...

[JoFotoz]

Somebeach...

I am simply stating my opinion...JUST AS YOU ARE.

You are essentially telling me I have no right to air my opinion....

...and in doing so , you simply negate your own right to air yours.


Saying I "feel" this should be a paid site ..

..is FAR cry from DEMANDING IT BE A PAID SITE...

...it was an OPINION.

Saying I think everyone that uses this site should ""assume"" the responsibility of supporting it...

..is a FAR CRY from ''"demanding"" everyone pays to use it !

Again..it was an OPINION.


I REALLY hope you will reconsider your exit...

And I'm sorry if you thought my 'nudge' was over zealous....
...I kinda feel the same way about your reaction!

You have clearly demonstrated YOUR strong views..

...please respect that I was simply doing the same!!

And letsa face it...sometimes the lack of intonation and voice inflection leads "posted' words reading rather cold .


jo

[Gussie2000]

I haven't post any word 'till now.

I've read each post carefully.

And my conclusion is :

It's absolutely imperative that ALL OF US stop this sort of topics.

We,under no circunstancies shall finger any member for donations.

I knew that @ some point down the road this issue will get outter control & here we are......

It's absolutely imperative that supporters stops pitching any words to any non supporters regarding this sensible topic.

Yes we all knows that scott appretiates all & every single donation to support the site,yes we all know that the site doens't support on its self & we all know that when the goal is not acomplish scott has to pull the rest to cover the remaining amount but again,The word donation means " help at your will" or "as much as you can offer" but we cannot keep going this road because scott don't want that & it's very unconfortable in any way no matter what.

At vehicross.info there's no 1rst class or 2nd class members,there's no preferred or non preferred members,there's no VIP members,there's no members that has the lead or any one that has to follow.this is not any sort of army forces where there's a commander in chief which other less ranked has to obey.

If we check all these past months we all can figured out that during the year of 2009 few of those months the donation goal wasn't only met,but donations exceeded the $ 300 required to cover the cost of the server.Other months the donation goal were bit short & others,like last month was only $ 20 donated to the site,what i mean with this is that all goes by the flow of the site it self.
Yes,it would be great that all members donates to the site,but because we don't know how tight each member's financial situation could be,we got to refrain from popping this topic ever again.

Another fact that slipped our minds is that new members are watching us & this sort of situations instead of encouraging them to be more active & more eager to help will just drive them away from the site.

It's only an small porcentage of us whom support the site & all we got to do is support as much as we can.

That's how scott choose the site to be & we all shall respect his decision.

Don't want my single post to be offensive to any of you guys & get my back side kicked,please....i just asking to keep this topic of the board & let the site flow on its own.

Somebeach,i was one of the 1rst group of members that welcomed you here,please don't leave,you are important as much as all of us in here,every one of us gives life to this site & every one of us are important in here.We are an community where some will not agree on every single topic,but i strongly believe we all in here for the same interests ............ isn't ?

[Grif]

@Gussie Those words are a class act.

I suggest we close the thread on those thoughts.

[VX KAT]

x2!!