Hells Revenge run May 18th 2011 :yeso:
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Cool vid! Can't wait to see the rest. You can really hear my drive shaft crackling in the video!;eeko;
Oh, man, you left right before all the bad juju. A way home all worked out for everyone in the end, but yeesh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Triathlete
MOAB 2011 pictures They're chronological, but I think I'm missing Dome Plateau (sunday). Starts off with Top of The World (Monday, after the aborted Cliff Hanger), Seven Mile Rim (Tuesday), Hell's Revenge (Wednesday), Arches hiking and Tower Arch/Klondike Bluffs (Thursday), Canyonlands/north up Lockhart Basin (don't think we quite made it to Hurrah Pass) (Friday), Kane Creek Canyon (Saturday).
Sorry a lot of silver VX shots...:) Or white first gen Trooper--it was just Mike (and Rachel) and me that set out on a couple of those trails. And even the group ones, it's hard to take pictures of anyone but the trucks immediately in front, or maybe behind you.
Here are some of them:
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MMMmmmm! Smores!:bwgy:Quote:
Originally Posted by spaceCADETzoom
Nice pics Erwin!:yesy:
Way too much carnage this year.
Broken radiator hose (Mike in the trooper)
Smashed radiator (Jack)
CV boot (Joe)
Broken front diff (Joe and Mike in the trooper)
Broken t-case (Mike in the VX)
Punctured sidewall (Jim)
Broken cv's or hubs (Jim)
2 bad heads (Dave in the trooper)
Clutch slave cylinder (Fernando)
Burnt clutch (Joe in the 1st gen rodeo)
I think thats it.
:freek: :freek: :freek:
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wow you got close to the edge. No way I would pull up that far. I stop with my tires in the little divots.
Erwin, what was the name of this formation? John Holmes rock?:bwgy::bwgy:
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AWESOME PICS! KEEP 'EM COMIN'! I'm so jealous I missed yet another year of Moab. :( That's 3 years in a row I have not made it to. Next year, just gotta stay focused.
Bart
PS - Very cool to see several Troopers in that mix!!!
were the two amigos ever photographed together as a pair?
Yay! I made it home in about 24 hours. sleep must sleep.
Dear shrubbery , The smashing was not intentional. Please forgive me, and never forget me.
I tried but it was too dark...Quote:
Originally Posted by VXjunky
Yeah, that really sucked... However, we towed him to the stoop (nobody gets left behind) and he made arrangements for his brother to come to Moab with a trailer to get him home. We have a great group of people, and the convoy back to town with everyone's hazard lights blinking was a proud moment. I for one am going to be passing on a lot of the optional stuff from now on. Even the regular trails are getting harder, and I may be sticking to the slickrock and scenic trails... just going to Moab is great enough. Hanging out with everybody at the stoop & in town is a great time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Triathlete
Tried uploading a few vids... failed.
I ditto that Gil, I dont want to tear mine up.......to me its more of a family reunion now!Quote:
Originally Posted by nocturnalVX
Well, when it comes to breakage I think it comes down to sometimes #2 happens. As you know, I pretty much beat mine within its limits and have yet to break anything. If you pick a smart line, stay off the skinny pedal (except when needed) and know the limitations of your vehicles set up everything will go okay. If anything does break then there were probably some underlying circumstances.
Don't want to scare everyone away from experiencing the wonders of the best trails anywhere....besides, I think you would tire of running F'n'T and Hells Revenge over and over again.:yesy::bwgy: A nd both of those are rated just as hard as anything else we run out there, meaning they offer just as much potentiel for #2 to happen as any of the others.
I'm definitely going easy on my VX from here on out as well. Moab is great fun, but there is always the potential to thrash something. If everything falls into place, my VX is going to be looking brand new in the next few months, and I plan to keep it that way!!
Now that I have seen the carnage list, I want details!! How did Mike break his xfer case?
Bart
Hey everyone,
Wish I could have made it up sooner, darn work always getting in the way of fun. Plus I had a fuel leak I couldn't find after a week. So Friday night I got serious finally found it behind the engine high pressure side, disassemble the EGR stuff and got it fixed. Was thinking that all that was replaced when I rebuilt the motor so it couldn't be there, wrong again.
Anyway, had an incredible time! Met some terrific people at the Stoop. Got some great advice on what trails to take and which to stay away from, BIG thanks to Gill, Cece and Bob. Stock VX besides the supercharger, like the sports car handling what else can I say. Got the Wells trail book and that was a great help. Saturday morning went on Hell's revenge and thinking why is this rated difficult ? till I got to the last mile of 6.5. But made it through and went on another moderate, "service road" trail that had a lot of great scenery. Did more playing on Sunday, don't remember where we ended up but had a great time and didn't do any damage besides a little paint from the skid plates..
Just wanted to thank all the people that helped get us off to a great start. Highly recommend it to everyone to go at least once, you can't go just once you will be back I know I will. Hopefully I can get there earlier and join the crowd next year.
Dan
......safe , but in two wheel drive mode :(
Poor girl got the wrong end of my lead foot!!
Another AMAZING gathering in Moab...is it next year yet?
Photos etc to follow...gotta catch up on real life first!
jo
He was trying to climb an optional line near the end of Gold Bar Rim that I had just seen a couple jeeps try and fail. He started out in 4 hi (TOD) for whatever reason then switched to 4 lo. I doubt that switching is what caused it, it was the additional torque of the low range more likely. I never knew the TOD cases were chain driven. Think thats what popped. Cece has video of when it happened. You can hear it pop, it was loud. I thought for sure it was a CV since it sounded exactly like one.Quote:
Originally Posted by nfpgasmask
Dan, what gives Hells Revenge it's high rating is it's optional stuff...Hells Gate, Tipover Challenge, the Hot Tubs, and Escalator...plus the end and the long steep climbs/descents throughout. Though, with the right lines, we have gotten many stock VX's through it unharmed.
Just took the "after" shots.
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It'll probably remain this way for a while...the unpacking, cleaning, etc, of the camping gear, not to mention the actual car...It's way too intimidating to start while I'm still on vacation.
...plus I gotta find that heat gun somewhere in the unpacked tool boxes in the garage. And does anyone know if the gas tank skid plate is easy to remove? I think I want to bang it back out.
Wear your scars with pride!:yeso::bgwo:
:yeso::yeso::thumbup: Agree!!Quote:
Originally Posted by VX crazy
And IMHO, there's still plenty of fun and beauty to be had running the same trails a year apart.
Man, looks like I will have to recruit some new wheeling partners soon.;)
Better keep looking...I had a front drivers side rattle on Metal Masher on Friday, thought I fixed it when I found the loose diff bracket axle bolts, but no...went to change a leaking tire last night in the parking lot of the North Platte, Nebraska Taco John's and found that 2 of 3 nuts on the drivers side upper ball joint were missing! One bolt/nut was intact, one bolt was still there, loose, and one bolt/nut was gone entirely. That could have been ugly at 75 mph!Quote:
Originally Posted by Gizmo42
Moral: If you are out shaking the bejeezus out of your vehicle on wheeling trails (and Gemini Bridges Road), chances are you loosened some fasteners... check 'em!
Oh, and I got home OK, stayed in North Platte and this morning I got some new bolts etc and got the UBJ secured...
Gil, If this was taken as "I hope people break tranfer cases and such" I sincerely apologize...But that doesn't mean you can send me the repair bills either :rotate:Quote:
Originally Posted by djvx
It kind of sucked that I had to leave before the sun came out. Sorry to hear that several people left with major damage (especially Mike with his pristine '99). I had a great time, meeting a lot of new & wonderful people and seeing some familiar faces (was going to say "old friends", but didn't want to give Lisa a complex) :)
I've got a few dozen pics that I've yet to get off the camera. But I'll do it soon.
The VehiCROSS is an amazing vehicle and there's no reason to baby it on the trail. I'm not saying everyone should be as crazy as TriAthlete, but I don't think you should leave it sitting in the parking lot either.
I have a ton of photos, though things are still crazy in my world: at the moment I'm in Colorado Springs, still wandering around the west end of the country like some transient drifter on my fabulous trip to nowhere...I'm about 1200 miles from my home in WA. I'll probably not post photos of the fun stuff (Moab) until I get home. No idea when that will be, but it'll be one of these days, lol. ;Dy;
Made it home safe an hour ago. I ran the engine hard all way home, I was doing 75 almost all way with the little 4 banger. If you guys didnt know allready I broke my front differential. I havent pulled the third member yet but it is not gonna be pretty. I do have a spare so im ok with that. I hope everyone else has made it home safe or is in route. RACHEL AND I HAD A GREAT TIME AGAIN THIS YEAR AND IT WAS NICE SEEING THE FAMILIAR FACES AND MEETING THE NEW ONES. I will post pics later tonight or in the morning. Ohh and for those wondering how I did in vegas? Well lets just say im 500 bucks richer! good night on the tables.
Ummm Kirk......I obviously already HAVE a complex! LOL seriously awesome to see you again after so long!
Great seeing everyone as well for me, if Scott, Laura, and Robert would have been there it would have been the perfect year! Sorry if I offended anyone, y'all that know me I am sure I didnt offend, but I tend to let loose when away from my stressful work/family life!
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Originally Posted by Zu4two
X2...I'm still on the fence,but ready to tone it down a notch:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by VX KAT
First thanks for the condolences and positive mojo coming my way! I tore into it as soon as I got home so have not been able to check the site for a few days.
Now I am the newbie so I take no offense to you all laughing and learning from my mistakes (they are numerous and significant!)
So... I was doing something I should not have been doing in 4H. We had finished all the demanding stuff on the trail and I switched out of 4L to have some fun Kirks way! (For those who have not been out with him he likes to floor the gas every chance he gets!) We came across an obstacle and those famous last words came out of my mouth..."I can do that" :yesgray: I tore into it and forgot to switch back to 4L :( I had the front wheels up when I switched to 4L. Should have backed down put it in 4L and started again. I was deep into the gas pedal when I am guessing the 4L actually engaged and it engaged with a BANG! Literally. It was getting late so Dave and I wasted no time tearing off my skid plates (freshly painted :smilewink) and disconnecting the drive shafts. Gil and Cece were life savers and towed me back to the stoop. This is where the great meeting of the minds took place :rollb2: Because the grinding, popping and jerking stopped when we disconnected the drive shafts the problem must be transfer case! Getting home Sunday was a must for work so I made a call to my big bro who came through with his diesel truck and a trailer. Made it home with no problems. Dove in head first tearing my beautiful VX apart top to bottom and actually got the transfer case out in about 6 or 7 hours. Not bad considering I had no idea what I was doing. I set it on the bench and spun the flanges which connect to the drive shafts and.... it was smooth as silk! WHAT THE!! I made a few calls to a mechanic friend who offered to come over and take a look. While waiting I decided to check the differentials. Opened the drain plug on the rear put a magnet in...all good. Got under the front put the magnet in and...metal bits, pieces, parts everywhere :mad: Yep took the whole transfer case out and it was the front diff that gave out.
So now its a race to find a new front diff. Oh yeah and put the transfer case back in! :)
It was great getting to know everyone on the stoop and on the trail.
Thanks to Gil Cece Dave Mark Joe Dub Jack Steve Mike Craig and everyone else who helped get my VX home in almost one piece.
I had a great time! I will fix it and be back next year. For the stoop and the sticker! :thumbup:
Wow, I finally got a day off. I canceled for financial and physical reasons, then ended up ttrading my VAC time for later. The night you guys wanted to Skype I was called out and have been working 12-14 hours since. Still, no excuse. I MISS MY FAMILY!!!
The trails looked like they took a punishing over the winter but, I'm glad everyone got out mostly unscathed. Don't let it discourage anyone, just coming for the hang out is worth it.
I'm so sorry for missing... I hope the depression lifts soon.
Mike, sounds like its time for you to put some time in and source some open 4.77s and install an Aussie locker in the rear. :yesy:
Bart
here's my list of about 40 some junkyards with a VX and about 60 with a 95/96/97 Rodeo (not sure if our diffs are shared with them or not), maybe this will help you find a front diff.
http://vehicross.info/forums/showthr...ht=spreadsheet
Member zoup2nuts works at the BMW dealership in Colorado Springs...you should stop by and give him a shout and you're only 35 minutes south from me in Castle Rock.Quote:
Originally Posted by MeowMix
If I knew what any of that meant that would be awsome! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by nfpgasmask
I like to do the work myself, that does not mean I know what I am doing. If anyone has suggestions I would love to hear them. Just put it in 4x4 for DUMMIES language. I need a whole new "third member"?? whatever blew up inside almost made out! There is a star crack on the passenger side top of the case! :freek:
Yeah, the 4.77s gears came in Trooper RSes and I think some Amigos. Basically, it would be a gearing upgrade for your VX, however the 4.77s are "open", which means no LSD (limited slip) in the rear. Right now, you have an open front diff and a LSD rear diff. If you found 4.77s and installed them striaght, you would have open diffs in front and in the rear. BUT, you could install an Aussie lunchbox locker then, and you would have MAD traction in the rear. :happyfaceQuote:
Originally Posted by mhill
I know, I know, when I bought my VX I had no idea what any of this meant either, but once you dig in, it gets addictive. Read this, it will help make sense out of what your diffs do, and why they are called "differentials".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Differe...hanical_device)
Bart
4.77's came in 2nd generation 4 cylinder 4wd amigos (although they did not have 12 bolt rear axles, still a little easier to find than the 89 RS) and the 89 rs ;)
but for that matter I'm not exactly sure what axle is underneath a vx.
Oh cool! We should get a beer or something at some point or another before I leave the state. I don't expect to be back anytime soon...this summer is kind of like my last hurrah before the tough part of school starts for me, so I may disappear at times for the next two years or so, lol. ;py;Quote:
Originally Posted by Mile High VX
Forgot to mention how the "JAMAS" cargo boxes worked out on the trip....EXCELLENT! So nice to have so much storage space and all my "stuff" so handy and accessible. The compressor, extension cord, gun case, air gauge, 5 qts oil, rags, knife, extra water/soda & food and a bunch of other stuff....all so handy and contained. Highly recommend these boxes!
Even on the roughest up/down bump type obstacle, the boxes barely moved out of place. After several slams up and down, they moved about 6" forward. Going to put some velcro on the bottom for next time, then they won't move at all.