Airflow Snorkel Installed

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Originally Posted by LittleBeast

New K&N part numbers:
http://www.knfilters.com/universal/apollo.htm

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My Apollo is back ordered for 1-2 weeks... yay :(

Looks like the seller that I got my Apollo kit from has at least 2 more for sale (in black or blue)... same price I paid plus free shipping. :dance:

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Originally Posted by VXorado

Thats good info. I can't comment on how this one affects performance since I haven't completed the install but i'm eager to find out.

Another possible option to increase airflow:

http://www.airflowsnorkels.com/Air%2...03_5%20Web.jpg

From the Airflow website:
"All our current Cold Air Induction Snorkel kits are supplied with this Air Ram, which provides 3.8 times free air to the engine. However, some customers prefer a lesser performance to the benefit of a more pleasing look… So, by popular demand, we have re-released the square Air Ram. Despite its lesser free air performance (only 1.85 times), this Air Ram may be more pleasing to the eye when associated with a “squarish” vehicle. So the choice is yours, looks or performance, Airflow Vector has it all!"

Since the VX isn't square, the new style air ram could be purchased to increase air flow & change the look. I'm thinking about for it myself...

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Yeah I have seen that too.They talk so much $%#t on the snorkel sites its hilarious :bgwo: They really should stay away from pseudo-science....3.8 times what....? And it still fits to the same tube so how does flow increase exactly?
Sorry for the rant, pet hate of mine!

Every one we have had come thru has dropped hp on the dyno when using the snorkel too :mad: but performance is not their purpose. What it WILL do is put the intake up in cleaner air, above water ingress, and (in the case of some Airflows, some Airtecs and almost NO Safaris)look cool too :bgwo:

If I could get my Airtec in a RH version I'd have one on each side - that'd solve the flow issue as well :bgwb:

Dunno if youve seen them but you can get 'socks' that go over the scoop and others that go down inside the snorkel tube as a pre-filter too.
http://www.uniflow.com.au/
Most folks I know here just have the sock - easy to pop on & off for washing etc

Agree the big round tip would suit the Vx better too :winky:

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Originally Posted by nocturnalVX

Looks like the seller that I got my Apollo kit from has at least 2 more for sale (in black or blue)... same price I paid plus free shipping. :dance:

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Yeah yeah... show off :p.

We'll see who's laughing in 2-3 weeks when I get my intake... that I ordered a week before you....:upsetgray

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Originally Posted by Robbomaz

Yeah I have seen that too.They talk so much $%#t on the snorkel sites its hilarious :bgwo: They really should stay away from pseudo-science....3.8 times what....? And it still fits to the same tube so how does flow increase exactly?
Sorry for the rant, pet hate of mine!

Every one we have had come thru has dropped hp on the dyno when using the snorkel too :mad: but performance is not their purpose. What it WILL do is put the intake up in cleaner air, above water ingress, and (in the case of some Airflows, some Airtecs and almost NO Safaris)look cool too :bgwo:

If I could get my Airtec in a RH version I'd have one on each side - that'd solve the flow issue as well :bgwb:

Dunno if youve seen them but you can get 'socks' that go over the scoop and others that go down inside the snorkel tube as a pre-filter too.
http://www.uniflow.com.au/
Most folks I know here just have the sock - easy to pop on & off for washing etc

Agree the big round tip would suit the Vx better too :winky:

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The round air ram produces 3.8 more unicorns than the square one. It's science... don't question it.

I got the snorkel for off road use & looks. From what you've said about performance, I'll just add another inlet to the air intake for street use.

...and I need to get one of those socks. they're nifty ;).

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Originally Posted by nocturnalVX

Looks like the seller that I got my Apollo kit from has at least 2 more for sale (in black or blue)... same price I paid plus free shipping. :dance:

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I was watching a 2 year old second-hand Apollo on FleaBay here - ended up closing at $32 more than the new one from the US including shipping that came up in the same search! :confused:
I just don't get people sometimes....usually it's Americans I dont get, but this time its Aussies :bgwo:

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Originally Posted by VXorado

The round air ram produces 3.8 more unicorns than the square one. It's science... don't question it.

I got the snorkel for off road use & looks. From what you've said about performance, I'll just add another inlet to the air intake for street use.

...and I need to get one of those socks. they're nifty ;).

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Ahh, I didnt realize Unicorns were involved. I'll shut up :smilewink
Nothing says 'I'm a deadly serious off-road type' like a snorkel sock. Add a K-Mart inclinometer to the dash for full Chuck Norris Approved hardcorenessness

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Originally Posted by Robbomaz

I was watching a 2 year old second-hand Apollo on FleaBay here - ended up closing at $32 more than the new one from the US including shipping that came up in the same search! :confused:
I just don't get people sometimes....usually it's Americans I dont get, but this time its Aussies :bgwo:

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It all goes back to the fact that there are no pre-designated qualifications for reproduction...:yesgray:

Gotta have a licence to drive
Gotta have a licence to be a doctor
gotta have a licence to cut hair
Gotta have a licence to pull teeth
Gotta have a licence to FISH...in lakes, at least...here
Gotta have a licence to dispense all WORTHWHILE meds...:upsetgray

Freelancing in any of the above can land your butt in the clink, yet...

Any f'n moron with genitalia can bring more stupid people into the world...:slap:

Makes perfect sense...right?

O-T rant = OFF...sorry...:mbrasd:.:flower:

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Originally Posted by Ldub

It all goes back to the fact that there are no pre-designated qualifications for reproduction...:yesgray:

Gotta have a licence to drive
Gotta have a licence to be a doctor
gotta have a licence to cut hair
Gotta have a licence to pull teeth
Gotta have a licence to FISH...in lakes, at least...here
Gotta have a licence to dispense all WORTHWHILE meds...:upsetgray

Freelancing in any of the above can land your butt in the clink, yet...

Any f'n moron with genitalia can bring more stupid people into the world...:slap:

Makes perfect sense...right?

O-T rant = OFF...sorry...:mbrasd:.:flower:

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I have two much-loved T-shirts
"Your village rang, they want their idiot back'
'I'm allergic to stupid people.......AH-CHOO'

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Originally Posted by nocturnalVX

I scored a red K&N Apollo universal cold air closed intake system from Ebay for $90!..

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This "universal" kit isn't... I had to order a bracket and an adapter from K&N. The VX is scheduled to go back in the shop on Thursday. I'll keep you posted...

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Originally Posted by nocturnalVX

This "universal" kit isn't... I had to order a bracket and an adapter from K&N. The VX is scheduled to go back in the shop on Thursday. I'll keep you posted...

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I surprisingly got mine yesterday and installed it. I already had a simple bracket for my old ram air intake which made things very easy to hook up. I just used a silicone coupling to attach the filter to the MAF housing.

I'll hook up the snorkel soon & post some pics. I also started water proofing all of the electrical engine terminals & fuse box. Should be ready for some deep water in no time :).

The silicone adapter from K&N will not get here until Friday... Yeesh!

Because I do not have faith in the skills and knowledge displayed by the crew at the shop that was supposed to do my install, I've decided that I'm taking my VX to Espo's once I get the silicone adapter from the shop that ordered it. Once it is done, I'll post a separate thread with part numbers & cost... plus pics!

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Originally Posted by nocturnalVX

Because I do not have faith in the skills and knowledge displayed by the crew at the shop that was supposed to do my install, I've decided that I'm taking my VX to Espo's once I get the silicone adapter from the shop that ordered it. Once it is done, I'll post a separate thread with part numbers & cost... plus pics!

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ORrrr...:smilewink

Bring it to the Moab fab shop...otherwise known as "the stoop"...:_wrench:. :smack:...:naughty:

I gotta say, snokels on VXes usually look like poop, but that looks damn good. Nice job.

Bart

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Originally Posted by nocturnalVX

That is Bart's VX. Kewlness!

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Yup, but that's my old page!!!! I need to take it down and redirect the link here:

http://www.isuzugeek.org

I need to move my mod pics and build stuff over and I just haven't figured out how I wanna do it on the new site yet.

EDIT: I just remembered, I moved all the mod info over to my Blog.

Bart

You need to update your site with the addition of the '89.

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Originally Posted by yellowgizmo99

You need to update your site with the addition of the '89.

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Have you looked at it lately? I uploaded a section for it yesterday.

:) Bart

Missed the About section and was reading the RS Dreams section.

Update: picture with new filter & snorkel tube

Backside of snorkel base. You can see the weather stripping I used around the edging and the silicone around the tube to waterproof it.
http://i1168.photobucket.com/albums/...g?t=1331864070

Here's the carnage done to the fender :eek:. The snorkel is a long term commitment...

http://i1168.photobucket.com/albums/...o/IMAG0344.jpg

You will need to cut a hole in the fender structure otherwise there won't be enough room to fit the snorkel tube.

http://i1168.photobucket.com/albums/...o/IMAG0347.jpg

The mounting bracket for the window frame- I used the provided bracket and just cut it shorter to fit the way I liked.

http://i1168.photobucket.com/albums/...o/IMAG0353.jpg

Here is the K&N Apollo sealed filter that I have setup for street driving. With a rubber gasket & hose clamp, the snorkel tube & Apollo can be connected with a water tight seal. The snorkel tube easily runs through the fender to access the engine bay and fits above the wheel well liner.

http://i1168.photobucket.com/albums/...IMAG0362-1.jpg

The snorkel isn't a cheap modification but it's one of my favorite. The VX get way more attention now that I have the snorkel mounted... I get a new compliment almost everyday. :)

Here's the final price breakdown for this setup:
Snorkel+Shipping: $430.00
Apollo Sealed Air Intake: $100.00 * Thanks for the tip Jo ;)
3" hole saw: $15
Weather Stripping: $5
Silicone/glue: $10
Total: $560 ...and about 6 hrs of your time.

Tools required:
Drill & drill bits
Heat Gun
Hole Saw
Metric Wrenches & Sockets

For water crossings, consider water proofing the fuse box & wire connections with silicone & electrical moisture seals. A spare alternator would also be smart.

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Originally Posted by VXorado

The VX get way more attention now that I have the snorkel mounted... I get a new compliment almost everyday. :)

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No offense, but I hope you didn't cut a hole in your VX just to get attention!!

Bart

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Originally Posted by nfpgasmask

No offense, but I hope you didn't cut a hole in your VX just to get attention!!

Bart

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Not offended, I take the VX offroad more than most around... I got the york on board air compressor project going on now... next the winch install... next finish the SFIFS kits...

So, no the snorkel isn't just for looks. I can't wait to ford some deep water crossings, just need to figure out how to keep the TOD ECU dry.

I scared myself a couple years ago when I crossed the mud hold and it was a bit deeper than I was expecting. Just after we took this picture.

http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/da...humbs/mud2.JPG



Still, I love the way the snorkel looks and I try to make all my exterior mods functional & aesthetically pleasing (to me). I mentioned it because I find it funny after everything I've done to the VX, the snorkel seems to be the eye catcher. It's true, tons of attention recently.

Researching & building projects for the VX is my favorite hobby and spend a lot of time working on them. I definitely don't mind the compliments & appreciation.


Here, I wrote this in my first snorkel thread and I'm happy with the results. :)

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Originally Posted by VXorado

I've always wanted one (for the look too) & will definitely be pursuing it with more success than the past attempts.

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Originally Posted by VXorado

So, no the snorkel isn't just for looks. I can't wait to ford some deep water crossings, just need to figure out how to keep the TOD ECU dry.

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Cool! That's what I want to hear!! I can't wait to see pics/video of you doing just that! :)

Bart

Man, being out here in the Gulf is killing me. Looks like I missed some great threads! Definitely gotta move the alternator and then work on the snorkel project. Looks like I will have an Injen Cold Air Intake available once I do this. Gotta find a rodeo to get the factory airbox out of:(
That setup looks pretty good!

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Originally Posted by Marlin

Gotta find a rodeo to get the factory airbox out of:(

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That shouldn't be hard. I saw about 6 of them at Pick & Pull a couple weeks ago.

Bart

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Originally Posted by Marlin

Man, being out here in the Gulf is killing me. Looks like I missed some great threads! Definitely gotta move the alternator and then work on the snorkel project. Looks like I will have an Injen Cold Air Intake available once I do this. Gotta find a rodeo to get the factory airbox out of:(
That setup looks pretty good!

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I'm still hoping to use the snorkel this summer for a deeper water crossing. Unfortunately, Colorado is super dry and the water crossing I had in mind are just puddles this year.

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Originally Posted by VXorado

I'm still hoping to use the snorkel this summer for a deeper water crossing. Unfortunately, Colorado is super dry and the water crossing I had in mind are just puddles this year.

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Just have to find a way to get you out on the trail :p, i think i know of a good LAKE on argentine pass ;Dy;

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Originally Posted by pbkid

Just have to find a way to get you out on the trail :p, i think i know of a good LAKE on argentine pass ;Dy;

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Maybe we should do some trail testing the third week of July :yesgray:

I wanted to run a trail with a water crossing to test the snorkel... unfortunately this crossing wasn't deep enough. Arcobarco was in the Ebony VX and was easily able to cross it.

http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/501/DSC03777.JPG

The search continues for a deeper water crossing. I'm looking for a water depth at least up to my headlight. :bgwb:

The creek crossing on Fordyce trail will test it out nicely! :)

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Originally Posted by Triathlete

The creek crossing on Fordyce trail will test it out nicely! :)

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:freek:

I don't know about that... although we would probably have an easier time because we're wider & heavier than a CJ/willys.

There should be plenty of crossings like that next spring if Colorado get a good snow pack. I'm still hoping to find one this year...

Patrick Cooper up-the-river video is the benchmark for the VX. :thumbup:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8ivM_tINlU

vxorado did you move your alternator to a higher spot?

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Originally Posted by evillecutter

vxorado did you move your alternator to a higher spot? you might have already answered this but i didnt feel like reading through 8 threads with 4 pages each to find out

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No I didn't. I don't think there's enough room to install it in the VX without cutting into the wheel wheel. For now, the front kilby skid plate is a good shield to protect the alternator from water/mud/dirt. Maybe some day...

Clear water is less of a threat to the alternator...muddy/dirty water is an atlernator killer though.

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Originally Posted by Triathlete

Clear water is less of a threat to the alternator...muddy/dirty water is an atlernator killer though.

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I've heard the same... do you know why?

Probably because of heat. Thin (clear) water evaporates, or runs off, or even just washes through, but Mudd and junk clog up all the small openings that help keep all the electronical components cool, heat and electronics = no bueno :-)

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Originally Posted by LittleBeast

Probably because of heat. Thin (clear) water evaporates, or runs off, or even just washes through, but Mudd and junk clog up all the small openings that help keep all the electronical components cool, heat and electronics = no bueno :-)

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Thanks :)

That explains it and justifies having kilby skid plates or a lower alternator shield for mud crossings.