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Originally Posted by Marlin
Nice collection of jokes...probably H.W.J. spent the whole day on the net searching for those on internet he stole from his working neighbors.
GOD BLESS the new USSA
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should have read like thisQuote:
Originally Posted by Marlin
Nice collection of jokes...probably H.W.J. spent the whole day on the net searching for those on internet he stole from his working neighbors.
GOD BLESS the new USSA
When an armed robber breaks into your home at gun point and takes stuff you worked hard to get he gets arrested and sent to jail?
But when the government takes money right from your pay check and threatens to take everything from you backed up by the threat of gunpoint it is considered morally right?
HWJ if you want to take all your wordly possesions sell them and give them to the poor that would be charitable and human. But when you or other liberals decide to take my property and income and give them to other people YOU consider deserving that is socialism. I dontae time and money to organizations I feel are worthy. That is my right. What gives you the right to decide where my money goes?
Did you realize that before you get your paycheck the FEd takes over 30% off the top. Then depending what state you live in they take 8%, then depending on the muni you live in another 5%. If you own your own home they take several thousand a year. On top of that any money you spend there is sales tax around 8%. This is the level of taxes not for the rich but for the average working. Of which there were more under Bush @ 6% unemployment than BO at 10% even after paying unions and govt workers $800,000,000,000 under the so called stimulous. That means the average worker pays 50% of his money in taxes. That is TOO MUCH.
I am all for helping my fellow man. I doubt you could find many people who gleefully watches his fellowman starve. However, I have a pecking order and while it may be selfish it is my family first. For some reason liberals seem to think there is an endless upply of money just sitting around. There is not and you just cant keep spending money for every program even if it is a good cause without cutting it elsewhere.
Imunna sit this one out...:yesgray:Quote:
Originally Posted by nfpgasmask
And hang out over here inna corner wit my Buddy Bart, eating cheeboogies & watching while you kids regurgitate the same stuff...:laughing::dan_ban::laughing:
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Originally Posted by Ldub
Love these danm burgers....
Bart
You are exactly right, but it is NOT THE GOVERNMENT'S JOB to provide for others. That is what churches, charities, neighbors and family are for. Taking from me what I worked my *** off for and giving to someone who did not is not helping anyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by HOT_WASABI_JUNKIE
The economic crisis spawned from the housing crash. PERIOD. In the Navy, your job is defined by your rate. We have a saying, "choose your rate, choose your fate". If you chose to work in a non-secure field and subsequently lose your job, get over it and move on. There are lots of jobs out there, I am sure I can take a white collar worker and they can do manual labor just fine, they just aren't willing to "stoop" to that level. So do not give me that whiny "life isn't fair" BS. The jobs are out there, you might have to move, Alaska has a bunch of jobs. Believe it or not, living in Southern California is not a right. Having a nice car is not a right. Having a boat and your own house is not a right. Health care is not a right. Having a gun is a right, having the freedom of speech is a right.
Mmmmmm...Hmmmmmmm...:yesgray:Quote:
Originally Posted by nfpgasmask
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Can I join you guys...mmm burgers!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ldub
We'ed be honored...:yesgray:Quote:
Originally Posted by Scott Harness
Hope ya brought'cha appetite...:smilewink
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Sure thing Scott, pull up a chair! What kinda cheese you want on your burger? American? Swiss? Provolone? Cheddar? Personally, I like Cheddar and bacon on my burgers, but to keep things relevant, I think we should all have American.
;) Bart
Can I get a burger with gub'ment cheese?:D
Burger Thread Jack
Mmmm, cheddar & bacon does sound good. Actually... hold the burger and the bun - I just want a big stack of bacon and some cheese.
I find it interesting that you were not complaining about taxes when Bush was in office...And at this time taxes are exactly the same now as they were then, Obama is not raising taxes, The uneven Bush tax cuts are now expiring for those who make 250 grand a year or more...I think it's not that you mind paying taxes, You just don't like paying them to a black guy with a funny name.Quote:
Originally Posted by circmand
I don't think it's the governments job to start pre-emptive wars .It's cool you work for the Navy, The Navy is funded by taxpayers, So basically you work for me. I know the military basically will take anyone who can hold a gun and count to three. In other words, It's not like a company that wants to see experience or education, They just bottom feed for people that have no other options but to shoot or be shot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marlin
I am all for my tax dollars funding wars to shoot the poor underprivileged overseas as long as some of my tax dollars are used to feed the poor and underprivileged that live in every town in the US. Some of them, ex-military, some of them republicans, and some of them bums milking the system.
I lived through the Bush years and watched him take this country to a new low, and watched McCain promise he'd do things the same...That's why he lost.
Obama would not have to be putting out so much seed money if Bush spent more time thinking about the country and less time taking vacations ( more than any other sitting Prez)
By the way Ill take my burger with avocado and sprouts..
California style Beeeotch!
And liberal amounts of wasabi?...:yesgray:Quote:
Originally Posted by HOT_WASABI_JUNKIE
about paying taxes since I started realizing how they are being wasted. I am all for paying my share but BO's $800,000,000,000 bribe to unions and state governments has every tax payer paying more than their share. On top of falsely claiming I supported taxes before BO I find it very interesting you rant about the cost of the war when in the last bill past to cover the war in Afghanistan more than 50% of the bill was pork put there and approved by the government that had NOTHING to do with the cost of the war.Quote:
Originally Posted by HOT_WASABI_JUNKIE
On top of that how do you claim that people who pay a higher portion of their salaries and most of the total paid in taxes should not be the recipients of tax cuts as opposed to people who get more money from the government than they pay plus a bunch more in welfare programs and other socialist programs. You have many people paying zero taxes yet as a result of the nanny state still get what is called a tax refund. But how the hell can you refund money that was never paid? I feel for the people who have recently gotten hit by the economy resulting from the Democrats forcing banks to give mortgages to people who could not afford payments but you have people who have been unemployed going back 3 generations. That means they dont work, their parents didnt work. are you telling me in all that time none of them could find a job? They apparently got enough government welfare to raise another generation of unwilling to work kids. Apparently there were enough jobs for 12 million illegals risked death to come here to work. Those same illegals BO and the liberals want to make US citizens for breaking laws, stealing identities, and not paying taxes. Hell you mean even under Billy Boy Clinton the economy was so bad they couldnt find jobs? Then you must think Clinton a bad president? Why is it 2 years after BO became president he can still blame Bush but everything that happened the day Bush was elected is all his fault?
I just knew this thread would turn this way. HWJ can't have it any other way. Cries way too much and has for years.
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Originally Posted by Bob Barker
Only if you voted democrat.
HWJ, as far as me working for you, you are right. I almost have a bachelors degree in nuclear engineering (well, 2 more classes, some stupid psychology class, and statistics) I make 75K a year, my civilian counterpart works 40 hours a week, and makes well over 6 figures starting,and that is in Idaho where the cost of living is nil.
If it weren't for us bullet sponges, whiny freeloaders wouldn't be able to whine and steal anymore:)
As far as taking anyone, every branch has close to a 1 year wait to come in, not just taking anyone...just those that are willing to work hard.
I'm 5' 10" 165 lbs
I've been told I am attractive and have a rapist wit.
I have a college degree and who cares.
I work pretty hard in the office when I am not chatting with you cats.
Like you, I'm working so illegal immigrants can have free health coverage while government officials continue to dupe me while asking for more money.
I otherwise like to veg on the couch with my own medication
...or abuse myself in the garage while sober.
I also like poetry and long walks on the beach.
OH! ...and pina coladas in the rain. :heart:
;puke2;
"If it weren't for us bullet sponges, whiny freeloaders wouldn't be able to whine and steal anymore:)" I don't see how this could possibly be true...
Capitalism is built upon the cheap labor so many people here disdain... what would happen without the day-laborers picking your fruits, building your houses, or doing any number of jobs you never would. The point is that everyone complains about immigrants, but this is why the political machines for the Irish, the bund for the Germans, and most recently the gangs exist and are part of society, it is people protecting one another as they make the machine called America work.
...work almost as inefficiently as possible. A good portion of the gangs on this side of the country come from the kids of illegal immigrants which have IMHO mutated society, instead of trying to belong to it. But really, there is no winning ever since the natives were labeled Indians. The white man taking from the natives wasn't right then and their neighbors taking from us now is not right either. 'Cheap labor' nor 'day laborer' has to equal 'illegal immigrant'. There are rules and if you know someone who has shown the decency of becoming a citizen without the innappropriate use of a loophole you may see how difficult the disrespectful "illegals" make it for the respectable "legals" to get here. There should never be the question of whom you would rather have come to your house...
But... maybe I'm just upset you're driving my VX. HMMPT! ;)
well storing :) driven her maybe fifty miles so far...
But a question though, as this thread spirals into self-destruction, who has the right to say who should be allowed in and who should not? I believe that there is a late thirties boat full of Jewish people that say sometimes the laws here do not quite work right...
I think the real is joke is, "if republicans are so economically saavy, why did they get their butts kicked in the last election?"
I mean a landslide victory for Obama,
Majorities in the house and senate...
The reason is simple.
If you look at history, since say 1776..
Look at GNP, Stock market,Unemployment stats,growth in the private and public sector,and other economic indicators you will find something very interesting...
The country fairs better economically when Democrats are in power and worse when Republicans are in power.
That's not a rectally extracted talking point, that's a fact.
All you loudmouth conservatives should not take my word for it but crack a book and educate yourselves on a little thing called American history.
So again I say
Sit your a§§ down and get comfortable, Your side lost, and deservedly so...
HOT_WASABI_JUNKIE speaks the truth with facts.
Now, a lot of people make up there own facts. That my friend is called a lie. Question - Why did we waste so many people and money in Iraq? Let's see if you will follow the lies or the facts. Question - Did you vote for GW twice? Then you follow the lies. This is not a Republican/Democrate thing. I'm neither, but if you voted TWICE for GW take a step back and ask why. There are a lot of facts out there. Remember, you can't make up your own fact. You can only make up lies.
There is nothing wrong with questioning your own self. Too many people don't do that. Many people do things because their parents did things a certain way. As a school teacher, some of these parents can't raise the own kids. I hope those students question their own self before they raise their own families. Sadly, that rarely happens. The cycle seems to always continue.
Well let's see if we can get this done in 500 words or less.
From looking at this as an outsider's perspective that of not having a VX but hoping to be a insider soon with one I would hate to see anyone here feel alienated because I enjoy reading everyone's posts, informative and always fun. Because this is a place that no matter what we come for one common enjoyment. It doesn't matter black one white one, or candy striped one. That being said, if I see something that makes me angry I try not to fixate on it. If you see something this displeases you in a post. You don't have to read every reply until your livid but enough of my pre-face and the let's get down to the meat of things.
Writing this from Chicago and the great state of Illinois(Blagojevich's workers paradise). I've seen liberal machine politics. So finely honed that it's an art form. In the next day or so it looks a 3rd governor will to go to prison and we will need a damn gubernatorial wing.
To quote the punk band Suicidal Tendencies. I voted Regan, and I'd do it again and again and again! Yes, there is good and evil in every race and creed, and political slant. I just prefer the lesser of the 2 evils, which I believe is conservative.
Having been in Moscow and Leningrad in the early 80s and seen how communism works firsthand and if that's your particular slant . Fine... but let's do it the right way, like the good old Commies do yes the little old lady gets to live and eat for free. But what you don't see is the 80-year-old women out at 5 AM sub 0 temperatures sweeping cigarette butts off the sidewalk for the street sweeping trucks to get out of the gutter why the fear of being cut off from mother's milk. And that's what we need over here anyone collecting a government check you should be given a one block keep clean. Maybe then little Joey would say, to little Johnny. Please don't spray paint the walls or throw trash on my block, because then I'll have to get off my lazy duff and scrubbed the walls and pick up your garbage. And if I don't. I don't get my check at the end of the month.. And not to mention that at 18, every one of the proud citizens of this peaceful nation, would serve in its military for 4 years. Sorry, no conscientious objectors the gulags are for those Do you have any idea what an old-school Soviet bloc country would do to you. If your papers weren't in order will let alone being in the country illegally. Don't fool yourself, whatever cesspool country you came from. You would be begging to go back after they got done with you and if you're still not convinced. May I suggests some nice light reading Ayn Rand's Atlas Shrugged to see how socialism, taxation and a welfare state helps breed laziness and mediocrity I don't see why he should be punished for excellence and hard work.
on the note of taxation since when did death become taxable event. When was it okay for the US government to come in and pilfer/grave rob up to 50% because of unfortunate circumstances
I find it odd that a wild animal can kill a human in a national park and will be hunted down and killed immediately as a danger to society. Yet, gang members kill people in the streets every day and get off in court. There has been more people killed in the city of Chicago this year than in Afghanistan and Iraq combined. Yet, we have some of the toughest gun laws in the country
I find it odd that Hillary needed Obama to forgive 3 million campaign debt. they could not afford to pay that but they can afford to pay $2 million for daughter's wedding I find it odd that our president can pick a strategy for the top 10 basketball teams yet can't pick a clear and concise one on the war. I find it odd, that I've never had the expeditious, concise and overall pleasant experience at the Department of Motor Vehicles Hall of records County Courthouse or assessors office yet these are the people that are supposed to streamline my healthcare. I believe it is just the ultimate way to legislate lifestyle i.e. They will say drunks, drug attics. People with chronic disease are just too expensive for us to finance. But that will just be the start then they'll say, skiers, skateboarders, BMX guys. People who like to drink too much soda. People who eat too much candy. Your lifestyle is too risky and can afford to finance you either but now I am rambling so I'll wind it up by saying. I just think less government interference more personal choice less penalty. More re-ward for excellence and hard work, lower taxes. So there's more money in your pocket and to have some encouragement to be charitable just seems to me like that's the way to go
PS, I thought the picture the bear was really fun
and thanks to all those who serve or have served in our military
I guess a picture is worth 1000 wordsQuote:
Originally Posted by Marlin
HOT_WASABI_JUNKIE
I love wasabi to!!!
Now I got all my bases covered
Yes very few who are eligible vote and those who do vote do not have to be here legally nor do they have to have a thought in there empty heads to vote. The only problem with a Republic is stupid people are allowed to vote.Quote:
Originally Posted by HOT_WASABI_JUNKIE
That is just a lie. We are currently worse under Bo than Bush. Sure you liberals blame Bush but it was your god BO who promised if we gave an $800,000,000,000 stimulous unemployment would not go over 8% (it went over and has stayed over) He either lied or did not know what he was talking about. When was the last time **** was this bad? Under the white BO Jimmy Carter. We could only get gas ecery other day at gas stations and they would often rub oyt after waiting 2-3 hours to get gas. Yes youngins in the 70s we had rationing and it was because of a liberal idiot who once was attacked and had to be saved by the secret service from a bunny rabbit. (this was not made up) It was Reagan who saved the economy and Bush senior who continued it. We then got Clinton who immediately started messing it up until we got a Republican house and senate. It is just Republicans are elected to fix an economy and then when things are smooth idiot voters forget and reelect Democrats who set about ruining it again.Quote:
Originally Posted by HOT_WASABI_JUNKIE
Frankly I doubt your education comes close to mine. In History, economics, business or common sense. If you had a little education you would know politics goes in cycles and this was the Democrats turn. Frankly BO has sucked so bad as well as Pelosi and Reid that the Republicans will think he was the greatest thing ever to happen to the Republican party. And I only hope when the land slide occurs this November you take your own advice sit down shut up and read a book. And not like your messiah reads teleprompter actually read it understand it and remember it. Every economist in the world says taxes in a bad economy is a bad idea.Quote:
Originally Posted by HOT_WASABI_JUNKIE
That was very enlightening..
You have convinced me of something..
Guys in the Midwest don't get laid enough...
I gotta go cash my welfare check from all your tax money and buy drugs with it, because I like to be really high when I laugh about how totally pointless talking to a bunch of dittohead dorks who's panties get in a bunch because more than half the country won't be taken in by your bloated dogmatic rhetoric.... Including me...
I always feel most enlightened when those with a far better education than I received, (not hard to trump me in that area) resort to speculative insult & name calling to make their point...:thanx:
Fresh cheeseburgers for my horses, & water for my troops!...:thumbup:
College did mean something back in the day you had to be smart:yesb:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ldub
have you met a college graduate in the last ten years:confused:
now it just means you can afford it and had nothing better to do:yesb:
:badhorse: :argue: :_brickwal
Cant make your point with facts so resort to name calling and insults. I am not sure what educational institution you went to but assume it wasone of those pass everybody or it will hurt their self esteem and that is more important than actually learning anything. However, this may allow you to become rich as a result of a lawsuit for failure to provide you with a quality education that you were entitled to. Of course it wasnt your fault if you did not knuckle down and study instead of taking a social promotion.Quote:
Originally Posted by HOT_WASABI_JUNKIE
Now if having a liberal govt is so much more economically advantagious please explain the financial health of California (the most liberal of states), New York City, Detroit (and Michigan as a whole), Pittsburgh, Philidelphia, Boston, as well as many other liberal cities that never seem to have enough money despite siphoning it from small towns around them.
You've convinced me!
Palin in 2012!
Even Im not that nuts. If it helps I am not a fan of the Republicans of late eitherQuote:
Originally Posted by HOT_WASABI_JUNKIE
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Originally Posted by VXR
He is right, it used to be only smart kids, athletes and rich kids went to college. Now anyone can go to school. Tuition loans are the third highest expenditure in the US government. Number one is social programs, the government pays out 75% of what the TOTAL DOD defense budget is into the welfare program. That includes equipment, soldiers, retirement, research and so on. 75%!!!!!!! So when you complain about how much the military spends, remember, almost 3/4 of that amount is just given away to people who aren't working. That is an investment with little to no return.Quote:
Originally Posted by VX KAT
In my current class I am teaching, I have 5 students with college degrees, 1 with a masters in computer science. So the thought that the military will take just anyone is out the window. College is to the point that it is useless since so many get degrees. If we were to streamline our college programs, similar to Australia, you only take courses related to your major. No more stupid British Literature courses and whatnot, this way, you are much better at your chosen topic. College is a scam. No reason one of those books should cost 200 bucks. I am enrolled in school, the military paid 900 bucks for calcI. It was an online, self taught course. What did the government pay for?!
COLLEGE IS A SCAM.
So, set me straight with your higher education. You say Clinton messed things up. How many jobs did Clinton create under his 8 years? Please compare that to Reagan, Bush I, and Bush II and get back with me please. Do me another favor. Go ahead and compare Crazy Carter too. Let's see, I think he was only in office for one term if I'm correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by circmand;20090
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You know what? I think I found it. What do you think? Get back to me o.k.?http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2009/...ord-on-record/
Interesting, I noticed that if you take into account lack of douchebaggery, Reagan wins by a landslide. Having said that, remember that the Clinton administration created a lot of jobs out of nothing. This resulted in the current housing crisis. Telling people they have money to spend that they really don't have, forcing the banks to give them the money, therefore buying things on credit, resulting in more jobs. We see where that got us...you can buy a 3700 sqft house brand new in my area for 170K out the door. (or in the door, pun intended). 8 houses down from me, same neighborhood, a 1400 sqft house by the same manufacturer sold for close to 200K new 5 years ago. A home is the most important thing you will ever buy, other than life insurance if you have a family. This drives our economy, so now most every house in my community that is more than 2 or 3 years old is upside down by 50-100K. I am right on that cusp, mine is only 2400 sqft, but I have every bell and whistle you can get, so I hope I can get what I paid a few years ago when I leave next year. Fix the housing market, and everything else will fall into place.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomdietrying
This is not at a presidential level to fix. Our city planners have to approve every home that is built. Rather than stop home construction, they continue to let builders develop, meanwhile, homeowners that are trying to sell are stuck. New houses=higher property tax=more revenue. I talked to a lawyer about a class action against the city planners. He agreed we had a case, but it would take so long, and so much money, there was no way I will be here long enough to see it to fruition.