Moab 'ZuZu VX - May 2013: 5/12/13 - 5/18/13

[VX KAT]

OK, It's time to start the official Moab 2013 thread.

DATES: May 12, 2013 - May 18, 2013

Come one, come all, stay a few days or the whole week!
Come have fun with the VX and the VX/Zu fam!

The more the merrier!

Some stay at:
Red Rock Lodge - Home of the infamous "Stoop".
Mention the Isuzu group and get a discount on the room rate.
435-259-5431

But there's many other hotels and motels in town.

.....what? you thought I'd use some other color? :rollo:


Here's the unofficial schedule of activities:

Little of this.....:bla:

Lots of this.... :_group2:

Little of this... :_steering

Little of this, er um, a lot of this...:_beer:

Hopefully not too much of this...:_wrench: :smack: or this....;puke2;

Little more of this..:_steering

Maybe some of this...:driver:

Some more of this...:_beer:

None of this.....:argue:

Some of this....:slap:

Oh my, maybe even this....:dan_ban: :naughty:

And lots and lots of this......:laugho:

And hopefully, some of this....:snooz:

[VXorado]

Amy and I will be back for operation "trail domination." :_steering :bwgy: --- that's suppose to rhyme

Hopefully I'll finish my projects before the trip... unlike last year.

[VxSport]

I am in...

[pbkid]

Looks like ive got a deadline for those 35's

[JoFotoz]

You Sir...


Looks like ive got a deadline for those 35's

....have a PM.

Jo

[JoFotoz]

Thanks for posting this up Sue :thumbup:

jo

[Ldub]

Amy and I we'll be back for operation "trail domination." :_steering :bwgy: --- that's suppose to rhyme

Hopefully I'll finish my projects before the trip... unlike last year.

Is that Amy with an "M"???...:laughing:

[Ldub]

:thanx: 4 getting it rollin' Suzy...:thumbup:

BOOM...booked room 112, 12th-19th...:dan_ban:

Def row...front porch of the "Moab Mafia"...:laughing:

The smell alone oughta be enough to keep pedestrian traffic to a minimum...:smilewink


Tapp'n Out...sorry gang, just can't make it work this year...:-(

Please disregard all typing above the red message...

[VX KAT]

:thanx: 4 getting it rollin' Suzy...:thumbup:

BOOM...booked room 112, 12th-19th...:dan_ban:

Def row...front porch of the "Moab Mafia"...:laughing:

The smell alone oughta be enough to keep pedestrian traffic to a minimum...:smilewink

Datz uz! Da MOAB MAFIA! :thumbup:

BOOM! ......Rm 124 booked! 12th - 18th

[VXorado]

Is that Amy with an "M"???...:laughing:

That's the one...

I'd say that was a valid specification since it was during a night of chocolate monkeys. :_beer:


:?:That reminds me, I hope Dumke has another strap dance for all of us next year.

[Ldub]

That's the one...

I'd say that was a valid specification since it was during a night of chocolate monkeys. :_beer:

http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/B1eFunky_01aaa.jpg

:_beer:..:laughing:..:dance:..:dan_ban:..:dance:.. :laughing:..:_beer:

[tjh]

I'm looking for some climbing/canyoning partners for maob 2013. I will be hiring a guide .
I want to climb Castleton tower. Other than that I am open to whatever.
PM me if interested.

[tomdietrying]

So what was the official VX count for ZuZu 2012? Was the most VXs in Moab broken this past year?
Peace.
Tom

[Triathlete]

So what was the official VX count for ZuZu 2012? Was the most VXs in Moab broken this past year?
Peace.
Tom

They missed it by one since you were not there...LOL!

Or maybe it was 2 since I missed it too :(
If all goes well I will be there in '13...hopefully with a really fast 3 man team for the Moab Relay!

[VX crazy]

Not to get everyones panties in a wad but I just tried to book room and they said they are not taking any more reservations after 5/1 because they may be torn down by that time. Waiting on call back from manager........

[tom4bren]

Not to get everyones panties in a wad but I just tried to book room and they said they are not taking any more reservations after 5/1 because they may be torn down by that time. Waiting on call back from manager........

Isn't that the same thing that they said last year???

[VX crazy]

All good, Devon called and said his computer was just crapping out, everything is good to go for may...

[Ldub]

All good, Devon called and said his computer was just crapping out, everything is good to go for may...

Yeh...last time I spoke with him, he said he was having "transformer issues"...:_thinking

I didn't put 2 & 2 together at the time, but now it has become clear...his computer is a decepticon...:yesgray:

It will change into a giant earth mover every now & again, & go to wreck'n the place up...:uhohgray:..:rotate:..:laughing:

[VX KAT]

ya know V, there's always an open seat among the fam, so no worries gettin' ya out on the trails!

If ya need help from an airport, give a shout. :thumbup:

[BigSwede]

Was there someone looking for a roomie? If so, give me a shout, I may be interested. I don't snore...

[BigSwede]

All good, Devon called and said his computer was just crapping out, everything is good to go for may...

That is plain weird...apparently he is blaming the computer for telling him the place is going to be demoed? But now it's not saying that?

We better hope he has that thing backed up, because I'm getting the feeling that a computer "accident" of some kind is nigh unto inevitable between now and May...

[Triathlete]

Was there someone looking for a roomie? If so, give me a shout, I may be interested. I don't snore...

No taj ma tent?

[pbkid]

i sure hope he can keep all our reservations this year, i'd hate to loose our spot down at the trouble-makers side of the hotel :naughty:

[VX KAT]

No taj ma tent?

Looks like Swede is livin' large next year!

[Triathlete]

Looks like Swede is livin' large next year!

You've obviously never seen his TENT! :)

[Gizmo42]

On paper, my tent is 2 ft bigger then his. But in reality his is taller and much more roomy then mine. Speaking of which, mine is still sitting in my living room LOL. Havent decided yet how to get all the damn tree sap off the rain fly.

[Dumke]

That's the one...

...

:?:That reminds me, I hope Dumke has another strap dance for all of us next year.



Sure as long as Dumke doesnt break again like last time. Hey I have to entertain myself somehow so you never know what will happen. :D

[BigSwede]

I dunno, I may still camp, just seeing what it would cost to share a room. I was a bit discouraged by the windstorms last year, didn't get much sleep for a couple of nights in the tent.

[Ldub]

Was there someone looking for a roomie? If so, give me a shout, I may be interested. I don't snore...



I dunno, I may still camp, just seeing what it would cost to share a room. I was a bit discouraged by the windstorms last year, didn't get much sleep for a couple of nights in the tent.

Well...here it is...:(

No Moab gonna happen for the Dub & Hunny Girl this year...it's just not in the cards.
She just started a new job, I'm currently suck'n the hind teat. (no job)

I just got off the phon w/ Jim, & he wants to keep the rezzie for the last room on the right. (112)

So...I'd say that might be a good place to start Steve, he'll be a call'n ya in the next days, or week, or 2, to see if you'd be agreeable to splitt'n the room.

I'm SO f'n bummed...

[Ldub]

Havent decided yet how to get all the damn tree sap off the rain fly.

Tried rubbing alcohol???

[JoFotoz]

There is nothing I can say here....


Well...here it is...:(

No Moab gonna happen for the Dub & Hunny Girl this year...it's just not in the cards.
She just started a new job, I'm currently suck'n the hind teat. (no job

I'm SO f'n bummed...

...that I didnt just tell ya on the phone.

:(

jo

[BigSwede]

Hey, it's still half a year away...maybe things will change for ya Larry. Here's hoping!

[Ldub]

Hey, it's still half a year away...maybe things will change for ya Larry. Here's hoping!

Get w/ Jim on the room dealio...he don't snore niether...:thumbup:

AND, as a side bonus, he sleeps on his L side, with almost no hearing in his R ear...so...party on Garth...:_beer:

[Gizmo42]

Tried rubbing alcohol???

Havent tried anything yet. Read a bunch of tips online then kept putting it off and never did anything about it. Dont want to mess up the waterproofing since i dont have somewhere to set it up to respray it and leave it to dry.

[JoFotoz]

Old sailing trick/ tip...


Havent tried anything yet. Read a bunch of tips online then kept putting it off and never did anything about it. Dont want to mess up the waterproofing since i dont have somewhere to set it up to respray it and leave it to dry.

...that I have used on boat & car covers.

Freeze it...then the sap chips/flakes off.

jo

[VX crazy]

Get w/ Jim on the room dealio...he don't snore niether...:thumbup:

AND, as a side bonus, he sleeps on his L side, with almost no hearing in his R ear...so...party on Garth...:_beer:

Hmmm interesting, I sleep on my left side too and much less hearing in my right ear as well.........

I am totally bummed your not making it, still hoping things change between now and than!

[Scott Harness]

NOOOOO!:(:(:(:(
There is time for things to change:bgwb::bgwb::bgwb::bgwb:

[pbkid]

Im with the rest of the crowd... Totally bummed and hoping for change.

This isnt good news.

[Dumke]

What they said. NOOOOO brother Dub...



Im crossing everything (yes everything) in hoping your luck changes.

[Donner]

Well...here it is...:(

No Moab gonna happen for the Dub & Hunny Girl this year...it's just not in the cards.
She just started a new job, I'm currently suck'n the hind teat. (no job)

I just got off the phon w/ Jim, & he wants to keep the rezzie for the last room on the right. (112)

So...I'd say that might be a good place to start Steve, he'll be a call'n ya in the next days, or week, or 2, to see if you'd be agreeable to splitt'n the room.

I'm SO f'n bummed...


Milo will not be happy about this! :mad:
Hey man, don't give up this far out! It just won't seem right without Dub.
I hope to be sportin' the new Trooper, and the daughters may be coming this year.
I'm pullin' for ya!

[Ldub]

Milo will not be happy about this! :mad:
Hey man, don't give up this far out! It just won't seem right without Dub.
I hope to be sportin' the new Trooper, and the daughters may be coming this year.
I'm pullin' for ya!

Thank You my Friend...:thanx:

All is not yet lost...http://www.vehicross.info/forums/showthread.php?t=23371&highlight=moab+fund

Greet the kiddo from unca dub...:thumbup:

[Jay Dunford]

Dang!! I just tried to book a room at the Stoop, and they want $100 or more depending on the room type per night. Gave me the "Event" B.S. even when I asked about the Isuzu group that has been staying there for the last SEVERAL years, told them we are the event. Looks like I'll be sleeping elsewhere and commuting to the stoop.

[JoFotoz]

Thats B/S Jay...unless all they have left is super swanky rooms....

...which they dont have anyway!

My room on the Stoop is $63 per night ...and IIRC, thats before discount.

Did you remind them about the VX group...15% discount?

Jo

[Jay Dunford]

Thats B/S Jay...unless all they have left is super swanky rooms....

...which they dont have anyway!

My room on the Stoop is $63 per night ...and IIRC, thats before discount.

Did you remind them about the VX group...15% discount?

Jo

Yup, asked about the group discount and the lady on the phone told me that is what everyone in the Isuzu group is paying, which I know isn't true.

[vt_maverick]

You might give her a name or two and the rates they were charged and then ask if the lodge intends to charge a higher rate when those folks arrive in town. Ought to be an interesting answer...

[VX KAT]

I made res about 2 months ago and was told "$486.26 for 7 nights with the 15% discount"�.although I just divided it out and it looks like it's $69.99 or $74.99 per night�.I don't see any 15% discount�.?????:eek::eek:

I think that "total" he gave me was including tax etc�..so if that's the case, the nightly rate is even higher, more like $79.99/night�hmmmmmmmm??????:_thinking:_thinking:_thinkin g

I might call them and see if my quote is guaranteed�

oh�and "super swanky" can NOT be used in the same sentence when referencing "the Stoop"�LOL�.unless you put a "NOT" in front of it�.:laugho:

[vt_maverick]

Off topic... Sue why do you have all these "?" in your post?

[VXorado]

Bummer, I still need to make my reservations.

I'll call on Friday. Maybe i'll get someone else who will honor the group discount?

[JoFotoz]

OK...seems there is a bit of conffffussssion at the Red Rock end.

Just talked to Natasha ( I'm guessing the girl others spoke to) and explained the deal I helped negotiate as part of the promotion
I do for them in the Calendar etc...and the large size of our party!!

Apparently Jeremy Day, the manager has not informed her of the VX rates and discounts.

I explained it all to her, and she said she will honor the rates we had before.

So..this means

NO event upcharge on Fridays or Saturdays

Normal room prices right through your stay.

15% Discount at end of stay.

==================

Room prices do vary according to style/location/and the number of beds.

Hope this helps...probably good to give her a call now !

RED ROCK LODGE...... 1-435-259-5431

Cheers

Jo

[Triathlete]

The "event" fees were probably in place because of the Moab Relay. I hate when hotels raise their rates for any event. It's not like you are not already helping their economy as it is when you are in town. It's simple price gouging. They do that a lot at Ironman races...especially in smaller towns :(

[Jay Dunford]

Booked! Thanks Jo, glad it was just confusion on their end.

[VX crazy]

I am booked too, but that chic would not acknowledge our vehicross rate, I told her the total is almost 200$ more than last year, no comment, so I just booked it and will call back and talk to the manager........maybe I get a fifty shades of grey with my room?? Lol

[JoFotoz]

He77 Lisa...

..ya dont even need a room.

Dubs special chair...a blanket...all good!

:eek:

Jo

[44ficus44]

i know its a stupid question but, moab utah right? dont wanna end up in mars......

[44ficus44]

2000 miles dam, talk about breaking her in hajaha

[VX KAT]

Off topic... Sue why do you have all these "?" in your post?


Sorry�OT..but TJ with a good cause...:mbrasd:

I've been wondering the same�.:_thinking�been trying to figure out the pattern before I ask Scott.

Seems if I use more than 1 period in a row, the first one is the black diamond?, but �not always�. and some I can't ID a pattern..

Also getting some gobblygook characters like this: …
Last week I was getting like 5-10 in each post�.
Now if I see them, I use "edit" to delete them�and sometimes they appear in another place after the edit�.:_brickwal

I upgraded to Mountain Lion OS about a month or so ago, and have a few weird things happening here and there�.mostly graphic type issues. Not sure if my graphics card is crapping out or what. Since these were characters I thought maybe it's related to my possible graphics card prob, AND HOPED THEY WEREN'T actually being seen by anybody but me�.well�thanks for mentioning it Mav, now I know a little more info.

Let me know if you've seen those other 3 characters.

MAC people�.HELP ME�:goof:
technocopy?
Wintermute?

[Ldub]

maybe I get a fifty shades of grey with my room?? Lol

What tha h3II is THAT...:confused:

Some new vodka that's worser than tha swill-ish gorp you usually bring???...:rotate:..:laughing:

LOL...fiddy shades of grey goose...:laughing:

(and YES, I DO know that it's a book...)

[tom4bren]

........maybe I get a fifty shades of grey with my room?? Lol

After the 'granny panty' incident, that's a step up!!!

[Craig]

Guess who's in room 104. Huh? Can you guess?

Here's a hint: he'll have Idaho air in his tires.

[Ldub]

Guess who's in room 104. Huh? Can you guess?

Here's a hint: he'll have Idaho air in his tires.

Mr Universe???

Batman???

Arnold Stallone???

Tha King of Idaho???

White Russet???

:confused:

:smilewink

:laughing:

[Scott Larson]

Who da ho?? Oh, you da ho...:slap: :rotate:

[Gizmo42]

Guess who's in room 104. Huh? Can you guess?

Here's a hint: he'll have Idaho air in his tires.

Well guess who's sitting in room 108 right now typing this? LOL

Although I'm Isuzuless on this trip. Just a road trip in the Vulva. Doing the touristy things I never do when here in May.

[Triathlete]

If a crown vic can make it through hells revenge I am sure the volva can too! :)

[JoFotoz]

TO CONFIRM...

Just talked to Devon at Red Rock...
(Gismo heard 'em talking about us!!)

Call DEVON.. 1-435-259-5431

Invoke the VX deal...and get :-

No event fees
15% discount.

All good.

Jo

[Gizmo42]

The AWD and traction control would easily let it do that if I had a bit more ground clearance and actually didnt give a crap about my car.

[Ldub]

Who da ho?? Oh, you da ho...:slap: :rotate:

Me no ho...just easy...:laughing:

[Scott Harness]

Well guess who's sitting in room 108 right now typing this? LOL

Although I'm Isuzuless on this trip. Just a road trip in the Vulva. Doing the touristy things I never do when here in May.

I thought that door looked familiar!(Facebook) Clean up good,:p I'll be there in a few months

[Gizmo42]

I'll be sure to leave you a present :P LOL

No bed bugs to report, so thats good.

[MSHardeman]

WOOT!!:dance: Just booked Room 105 (I think) for the week. Check in Sunday, leave the following Saturday. Looking forward to seeing old friends and meeting new ones.

Can we go now?

[Ldub]

Can we go now?

DooD...yesterday would'v been about a day 2 L8...:upsetgray

However, I'm still waiting patiently, for the GO day...:yesgray:

Can't wait to see, your soon 2 B, moonkee goon'd face...:yes:.:_beer:

[VXorado]

BOOM, finally booked.

:dance:


Last room on the Stoop RM #101. :yesgray:

[JoFotoz]

Cool....





Last room on the Stoop RM #101. :yesgray:

...that puts you and Amy as the Defensive line. :p

And nobody messes with Amy !!


Jo

[ND92]

I be booked!!!!! Not sure what room it is but it's in the new part. Wish I could have gotten the same room as last year but its just me this year.
Can't wait to see everyone again!!

[VXorado]

Cool....



...that puts you and Amy as the Defensive line. :p

And nobody messes with Amy !!


Jo

That's right... we'll contain the crazy :yeso:

I booked Sunday night this time. Last year we arrived Monday night & were late for the party :slap:




I be booked!!!!! Not sure what room it is but it's in the new part. Wish I could have gotten the same room as last year but its just me this year.
Can't wait to see everyone again!!

Awesome. :thumbup:

[MSHardeman]

That's right everyone. Don't forget about the "Ice Cream Social" on Monday evening. Maybe we should change it to the "Moonkey Social" because that's about all the ice cream gets used for. Either way, it's a great time to meet everyone and totally geek out on our VX's. Always held in front of Unca Dub's room at The Stoop and usually around 7pm. I'lll start another thread for it as the time draws near.

[twalker920]

I really want to go this year. As I mentioned in my "maybe" RSVP, my sister got me a gift certificate to rent a 4-wheeler (Razor thingy) out from Moab (she said it was all she could think of for the guy who has everything - I checked and am pretty sure some of my everything is missing! But it is a cool gift).

The problem is I am just starting back to work after more than a year off on awful medical leave, so I have zero vacation saved up (burned that before the medical leave kicked in) and am still only working half time. So I have to see how things go and measure the likelihood that my boss would approved the time off so soon after getting back. We are swamped at work, and they, in all modest, need me, since they hired a bunch of college grads that are willing but inexperienced mechanical engineers. I somehow became the wise old man of the engineering dept. Even my boss is two years younger and less experienced in oil and gas than I am. *sigh* (note: I am only 43)

What the situation with rooms? How many do you think are still available? Also, if I do go, my dad wants to come too. Which would at least be nice to have a second driver for the trip out and back.

Fingers crossed. I am just going to have to whip these green kids in to shape so they can do real work before May.

[VX KAT]

TO CONFIRM...

Just talked to Devon at Red Rock...
(Gismo heard 'em talking about us!!)

Call DEVON.. 1-435-259-5431

Invoke the VX deal...and get :-

No event fees
15% discount.

All good.

Jo




What the situation with rooms? How many do you think are still available? Also, if I do go, my dad wants to come too. Which would at least be nice to have a second driver for the trip out and back.


Call the motel, talk to Devon.

Thought a little graphic and pics would help the noobes get a feeling for the motel and "The Stoop". :thumbup:

The motel rooms are laid out as two separate rectangles, one story, and both sections face the parking lot in between the two.
Parking lot is only about 4-5 car lengths wide, so everything and everybody's rooms are really close by. There's parking spaces in front of each room.

The block of rooms with numbers 101 - 112 is the "older" motel, smaller rooms, very basic, lined up side by side by side, with a cement walkway /sidewalk along the front of the rooms.

The other block actually has two segments, #114 - 119, AND #120 - 125 one segment has 6 rooms then another straight segment has another 6 rooms, and an outdoor hot tub between them.

Each asterick is a room, the black parallel lines are the street along the front, and the red circle is the hot tub.

#112-------------------------------------#101
*********** ||

---------------------PARKING LOT-------------------------- ||

****** O ****** ||
#125-------------#120-------#110---------------#114 ||



There's a little grassy/dirt area next to the end room #112 (LDub's) as well as a little extra paved area in front of that room that has a picnic table. Dub sets up his Choco Monkee making factory on the picnic table, and we all bring lawn chairs and set up along the walkway and the parking lot toward the end of the building?.and it's magically transformed into what is affectionately known as "The Stoop" :thumbup:

Can see the "older" section of motel to left:
http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/photokat4/MOAB%20%202012/DSCN0996.jpg


And the other section, to the right:
http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/photokat4/MOAB%20%202012/DSCN0994.jpg

http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/3260/DSC_2132.JPG



Can see rooms behind my truck?think that's room 106.
http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/3260/DSC_2109.JPG

http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/3260/DSC_2140.JPG

[Ldub]

BOOM, finally booked.

:dance:


Last room on the Stoop RM #101. :yesgray:


I be booked!!!!! Not sure what room it is but it's in the new part. Wish I could have gotten the same room as last year but its just me this year.
Can't wait to see everyone again!!

:dance:..:clap:..:dance:

[VX crazy]

Got the reservation amount all fixed finally! And got room 121 again, checkin sunday.....checkout friday.....

[SRN]

I remember being on the trails down in Moab back in the early 2000's in May and running across awesome Isuzu's all the time. Now that I'm the proud owner of a Trooper, I hunted around for this gathering and found it here.

I'm relatively new to Isuzu's, but not to Moab (been heading down there many times a year in Samurai's since 1993) and I'd love to tag along for this gathering if you'll allow another non-VX. :D

How is 'Zu Zoo structured? Do you guys have planned trails for each day or is it more of a wake up in the morning and figure out whats going on?

[MSHardeman]

SRN, welcome to the forum.

ALL Isuzu's are welcome at Moab. The whole thing started off as an organized, official, event where you had to register and sign up for trails ahead of time. Over the years it got too complicated, and too expensive (insurance) so it sort of de-evolved into what it is now; a bunch of Isuzu nuts getting together to have a good time in the desert (or is that dessert?). It's, sort of, turned into a mostly VX thing, but a few other Isuzuers show up too. We have a few Troopers show up every year, and one or two Rodeo's.

As for trails, it's mostly a rag-tag, seat-of-the-pants, kind of thing. Everyone meets at "The Stoop" (the Red Rock Lodge) each evening for drinks and stories and trail teams will kind of naturally form from there, but some trails are decided on the morning of while everyone is sitting in line.

Come on out, it would be great to meet more Zuers.

[pbkid]

We have a few Troopers show up every year, and one or two Rodeo's.
Im starting to think the stoop goons have selective memorirs, they always manage to forget Jay and myself, showing up in anything but a Zu. ;)
Once a VXer, always a VXer.

Oh, and dessert is the yummy one mark, you always want more, so it has 2 s'es.

[Jay Dunford]

Im starting to think the stoop goons have selective memorirs, they always manage to forget Jay and myself, showing up in anything but a Zu. ;)
Once a VXer, always a VXer.

Oh, and dessert is the yummy one mark, you always want more, so it has 2 s'es.

Yeah, we are joining Zeus as the red-headed step children that are "never spoken of publically".

Plus it doesn't help that most of us have more grey hair every year and do our best to kill as many brain cells as possible with alcohol each night on the stoop.

[MSHardeman]

Sorry guys (Jack and Jay) didn't mean to exclude either of you. I just look forward to seeing everyone and I could care less what they drive. Like y'all said, I still think of you as Zu owners and keep forgetting that you own anything else.

So basically what we're saying is that everyone is welcome, but you have to play nice. :bwgy:

[pbkid]

I sup'pose we will let it go this time Mark... ;)

[VXorado]

It would help if you had the appropriate "Isuzu" or "Vehicross" badging on your outcast vehicle. Then we'll at least know you're part of our group and not the annual Runner/Rubicon Mid-May Safari Jamboree. :yesy:


Example: The Isuzu FJ - :thumbup:
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c337/Gizmo420/Moab%20ZuZoo%20XV%202012/IMG_162023.jpg

I'm thinking about making a trip to the junkyard today, I'll look for the appropriate badging for both of you.

[VX KAT]

It would help if you had the appropriate "Isuzu" or "Vehicross" badging on your outcast vehicle. Then we'll at least know you're part of our group and not the annual Runner/Rubicon Mid-May Safari Jamboree. :yesy:


Example: The Isuzu FJ - :thumbup:
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c337/Gizmo420/Moab%20ZuZoo%20XV%202012/IMG_162023.jpg

I'm thinking about making a trip to the junkyard today, I'll look for the appropriate badging for both of you.

Hey, that's at the stoop and with a VX on either side�.who's is that?
mhill's VX on the right, so it's either 2011 or 2012.
I was there and I don't recall seeing it, oh wait, that's not unusual for me when I'm on the stoop. :goof:

[VXorado]

Hey, that's at the stoop and with a VX on either side�.who's is that?
mhill's VX on the right, so it's either 2011 or 2012.
I was there and I don't recall seeing it, oh wait, that's not unusual for me when I'm on the stoop. :goof:

If I remember right, that is Craig's FJ. He was at Moab 2012 & led a group of us through Poison Spider.

http://i1168.photobucket.com/albums/r500/VXorado/Moab%202012/106_2550.jpg

[Gizmo42]

Yeah its Craigs FJ that replaced the little trooper that could. He only had the Isuzu badge on for one day.

[pbkid]

Get me a VX wannabe badge and ill sport it Jon ;)

[Donner]

I'd love to tag along for this gathering if you'll allow another non-VX. :D

How is 'Zu Zoo structured? Do you guys have planned trails for each day or is it more of a wake up in the morning and figure out whats going on?


Yo Stephen!!! Glad to see you over here.

Structure???:_confused
What is this you speak of?

[Donner]

Guess who's in room 104. Huh? Can you guess?

Here's a hint: he'll have Idaho air in his tires.

Awesome!!!
We are in 103. I will likely be in the new Trooper. She's so purty. :)

[Donner]

95 Days!

[WillyLin]

Awesome!!!
We are in 103. I will likely be in the new Trooper. She's so purty. :)

you got a new trooper!? 2nd gen?

[Petos]

How about a Russian member, folks? I will be in California in the first half of May... So - will you let me join you without a Vehicross? :)

[Triathlete]

Come on up Petos. You will have no problem finding an open seat.

[VX KAT]

How about a Russian member, folks? I will be in California in the first half of May... So - will you let me join you without a Vehicross? :)

:thumbup: Awesome Petr, will be great to meet you!
Let us know if you need picked up at an airport or anything.

[twalker920]

Ok, I am going. I don't care what work says about it. Or the fact that I owe an enormous amount of taxes this year.

So, I need to book somewhere to stay, and I wanted to ask the Denver peeps (such as VXorado and PBkid) when they are heading out and if they want to convoy out together (safety in numbers....for mechanical reasons...I am reminded of the burning Jeep we had for just the beginning of one of our trail rides we did).

I think my dad wants to go too. He's retiring at the end of May, but already has Short-Timer's Disease.

What say you Denver dudes?

[whitebreadx]

um or well this might be a stupid question but, what is the worst that we will have to put our babies through? I mean in terms of the obstacle? i have moded my vx out but i donT want to be breaking anything now lol. i dont want to sound like a little girly man but it is my DD.

[MSHardeman]

So, I need to book somewhere to stay, and I wanted to ask the Denver peeps (such as VXorado and PBkid) when they are heading out and if they want to convoy out together (safety in numbers....for mechanical reasons...I am reminded of the burning Jeep we had for just the beginning of one of our trail rides we did).

What say you Denver dudes?

Most of the fam stays at the Red Rock Lodge in downtown Moab: http://www.red-rocklodge.com/ This is the place that we have all be calling The Stoop. It's a, relatively, cheap place to stay and they tend to put up with our shinanagins. Most of the trail runs usually start from the parking lot of The Stoop too. It's kind of the center of our little Moab universe.

Others will camp at some of the various camp grounds around the Moab area, but I think most stay at The Portal ( http://www.portalrvresort.com/ ), but it sounds like some people are having/ have had issues with these guys. I think they have cabins you can rent too. Moab really isn't that big, so anywhere you stay you'll still be close to the action. There is another 1960ish motel called The Apache Motel ( http://www.apachemotelinmoab.com/ ) and it looks like it could be promising. There has been talk that if the Red Rocks Lodge ever closes down (they've been threatening) we'll just move the party to The Apache.

We have done a big Colorado Convoy before, but it seems to have broken down over the past few years with a few of us heading over at different times. I'm over in Carbondale and I'll be heading to Moab on Sunday afternoon/evening so if you want to head over then I can meet you in Glenwood Springs and we can convoy over from there.


um or well this might be a stupid question but, what is the worst that we will have to put our babies through? I mean in terms of the obstacle? i have moded my vx out but i donT want to be breaking anything now lol. i dont want to sound like a little girly man but it is my DD.

You can really push your baby as hard as you want to in Moab. Everything from dirt roads to big gnarly ledges and rock gardens. My VX is my daily driver too and I am always VERY careful how I drive it out in Moab. I really don't want to ding or scratch it and, so far, I've done pretty good. It's amazing what a bone stock VX is capable of, and I know that my VX is capable of WAY more than I am. I just get nervous and don't really like getting all tippy.

We usually break up into a few groups when we go out on trails and you can always jump in with the group that suits your skill/comfort level. In the past we have done a VX only run where all of us go out together, and we usually pick a pretty gentle trail so that all of the new people can get their Moab feet under them. It was decided to NOT go on the VX only run any more because it usually ended up being a very long day, and some people got a little bored with some of the trails that we did. We did decide to do a newbie run on the first day of ZuZoo (usually that Tuesday) where a few of the "old guys" would volunteer to take the new people out on an easy trail so that they could get a better feel for what their VX is capable of.

[whitebreadx]

Most of the fam stays at the Red Rock Lodge in downtown Moab: http://www.red-rocklodge.com/ This is the place that we have all be calling The Stoop. It's a, relatively, cheap place to stay and they tend to put up with our shinanagins. Most of the trail runs usually start from the parking lot of The Stoop too. It's kind of the center of our little Moab universe.

Others will camp at some of the various camp grounds around the Moab area, but I think most stay at The Portal ( http://www.portalrvresort.com/ ), but it sounds like some people are having/ have had issues with these guys. I think they have cabins you can rent too. Moab really isn't that big, so anywhere you stay you'll still be close to the action. There is another 1960ish motel called The Apache Motel ( http://www.apachemotelinmoab.com/ ) and it looks like it could be promising. There has been talk that if the Red Rocks Lodge ever closes down (they've been threatening) we'll just move the party to The Apache.

We have done a big Colorado Convoy before, but it seems to have broken down over the past few years with a few of us heading over at different times. I'm over in Carbondale and I'll be heading to Moab on Sunday afternoon/evening so if you want to head over then I can meet you in Glenwood Springs and we can convoy over from there.



You can really push your baby as hard as you want to in Moab. Everything from dirt roads to big gnarly ledges and rock gardens. My VX is my daily driver too and I am always VERY careful how I drive it out in Moab. I really don't want to ding or scratch it and, so far, I've done pretty good. It's amazing what a bone stock VX is capable of, and I know that my VX is capable of WAY more than I am. I just get nervous and don't really like getting all tippy.

We usually break up into a few groups when we go out on trails and you can always jump in with the group that suits your skill/comfort level. In the past we have done a VX only run where all of us go out together, and we usually pick a pretty gentle trail so that all of the new people can get their Moab feet under them. It was decided to NOT go on the VX only run any more because it usually ended up being a very long day, and some people got a little bored with some of the trails that we did. We did decide to do a newbie run on the first day of ZuZoo (usually that Tuesday) where a few of the "old guys" would volunteer to take the new people out on an easy trail so that they could get a better feel for what their VX is capable of.

oh okay cool thanks that is really helpful info. I just wasn't sure how is was but thanks for the info.

[MSHardeman]

Even if you never get out on a trail in Moab, just hanging out with the rest of the Isuzu family is well worth the trip. Doing a trail or two is just icing on the cake, and a lot of fun to boot.:thumbup:

[Triathlete]

Mark, us campers haven't stayed at Portal for a few years now. The campground most use now is Pack Creek.

Whitebread, if you find someone with a similarly built vehicle that has some experience the best thing to do is line up behind them. You can follow them and see the line they take. All of us have to drive home at the end of the week so we are not out to destroy our rigs however some of us are a bit more comfortable pushing our rigs a little further than others.If at any

[Triathlete]

....time you are not comfortable just give a yell and someone will jump out and spot you over an obstacle.

[Triathlete]

Even if you never get out on a trail in Moab, just hanging out with the rest of the Isuzu family is well worth the trip. Doing a trail or two is just icing on the cake, and a lot of fun to boot.:thumbup:

Not getting out on the trail is blasphemy!

[Gizmo42]

I usually leave Aurora around 10-11am on saturday. Gives me a chance to sleep in a bit and still get there with time to set up camp and get some dinner. There is lots to do there from sight seeing on pavement all the way up to extreme stuff. Quite a few trails that are pretty easy and can be done with no problem in a stocker. I just spent a couple days there in my Volvo station wagon doing the touristy sight seeing stuff.

[VXorado]

How about a Russian member, folks? I will be in California in the first half of May... So - will you let me join you without a Vehicross? :)

:_beer:


Ok, I am going. I don't care what work says about it. Or the fact that I owe an enormous amount of taxes this year.

So, I need to book somewhere to stay, and I wanted to ask the Denver peeps (such as VXorado and PBkid) when they are heading out and if they want to convoy out together (safety in numbers....for mechanical reasons...I am reminded of the burning Jeep we had for just the beginning of one of our trail rides we did).

I think my dad wants to go too. He's retiring at the end of May, but already has Short-Timer's Disease.

What say you Denver dudes?

We'll be leaving Sunday- probably late morning



We have done a big Colorado Convoy before, but it seems to have broken down over the past few years with a few of us heading over at different times. I'm over in Carbondale and I'll be heading to Moab on Sunday afternoon/evening so if you want to head over then I can meet you in Glenwood Springs and we can convoy over from there.


That will work nicely for us. Unless something changes, we should plan on a convoy from Glenwood Springs. :thumbup:


I usually leave Aurora around 10-11am on saturday. Gives me a chance to sleep in a bit and still get there with time to set up camp and get some dinner. There is lots to do there from sight seeing on pavement all the way up to extreme stuff. Quite a few trails that are pretty easy and can be done with no problem in a stocker. I just spent a couple days there in my Volvo station wagon doing the touristy sight seeing stuff.

Maybe you should leave a day later and join the convoy... :yesy:

[VxSport]

Hey Rado, I will joining the convoy on Sunday too.

http://i1265.photobucket.com/albums/jj507/VxSport99/IMG_4679aaaaa_zps169c8dbb.jpg

I am still planning on staying in a campground. This is our tent, minus out the old Zu Amigo (RIp) and insert the vxsport. I am trying to find a pic of the sport combined with the tent. The Back end of the vehicle opens up thru a large opening into the tent. Its a great setup when it comes to camping.

[JoFotoz]

Great Petr !!!


How about a Russian member, folks? I will be in California in the first half of May... So - will you let me join you without a Vehicross? :)

...time we finally meet after years of calendar collaboration :thumbup:

Let me know your dates in California..I'll have room if ya want a ride out to Moab.

Please bring a bottle of Baltica #5 !!

Jo

[ND92]

Its going to be a long and lonely drive down for me this year. Not bad at 16 hours but still the longest haul i've done with hunter by myself. Hope I can convoy with someone at least once this trip.
Cant wait for May 10th :D

[ABDragonVX]

You might have 2 Alberta Isuzus join you there Stefan. Its in the works now.
Matt.

[VXorado]

Hey Rado, I will joining the convoy on Sunday too.


Sounds like a plan. :thumbup:

...and your tent is awesome.

[ND92]

You might have 2 Alberta Isuzus join you there Stefan. Its in the works now.
Matt.

If you need any help and info on anything just let me know and ill be happy to help.

[twalker920]

Ok, my buddy Joe might come and he would be bringing his massive pickup and trailer...so I have a rolling palace to stay in! There would be room for one or two others if anyone needs a place to crash. But yes I would like to leave Sunday with VXorado if we can coordinate that. How long where you planning to stay out there? Joe and I were thinking until Thursday, but haven't finalized anything.

[BigSwede]

Hey Rado, I will joining the convoy on Sunday too.

http://i1265.photobucket.com/albums/jj507/VxSport99/IMG_4679aaaaa_zps169c8dbb.jpg

I am still planning on staying in a campground. This is our tent, minus out the old Zu Amigo (RIp) and insert the vxsport. I am trying to find a pic of the sport combined with the tent. The Back end of the vehicle opens up thru a large opening into the tent. Its a great setup when it comes to camping.

That must really slow you down on the highway...:rotate:

[Triathlete]

For those coming keep in mind, the majority of the Zu group don't start showing up until Tues/Wen. There is a small group that show earlier in the week. Just something to think about.

[Ldub]

That must really slow you down on the highway...:rotate:

:thanx: 4 tha coffee out da nose Swede...:laughing:

[VXorado]

Ok, my buddy Joe might come and he would be bringing his massive pickup and trailer...so I have a rolling palace to stay in! There would be room for one or two others if anyone needs a place to crash. But yes I would like to leave Sunday with VXorado if we can coordinate that. How long where you planning to stay out there? Joe and I were thinking until Thursday, but haven't finalized anything.

Sounds good. Amy and I will be leaving Moab on Saturday.

[Gizmo42]

Maybe you should leave a day later and join the convoy... :yesy:

Then I lose a day of Moab. I dont mind traveling by myself, usually have to stop a lot to pee anyway LOL. I drink a LOT of water while driving.

[JoFotoz]

Sweet..I see a bunch of you Colorado peeps on the Stoop...

...Sunday afternoon ish :thumbup:

jo

[nocturnalVX]

Cece & I are going to miss out this year because we are going to Maui to celebrate her college graduation. However, we will be in Moab from the 10th to the 12th, and hope to see some early birds. We are road-tripping from Chi-Town to California in her Mitsubishi, so my VX will be absent as well.

We really look forward to Moab, and hate missing out. Petr... We HAVE to get together. Glad you didn't get squashed by a meteor!

[twalker920]

Sweet..I see a bunch of you Colorado peeps on the Stoop...

...Sunday afternoon ish :thumbup:

jo

It will be great to finally meet you Jo! :)

[JoFotoz]

U 2 Tom...!!


It will be great to finally meet you Jo! :)

The trails are great , and the Stoop meetings and greettings...
... are the icing on the cake IMO.

Jo

[JoFotoz]

Heya Gill/CeCe....


Cece & I are going to miss out this year because we are going to Maui to celebrate her college graduation. However, we will be in Moab from the 10th to the 12th, and hope to see some early birds. We are road-tripping from Chi-Town to California in her Mitsubishi, so my VX will be absent as well.

We really look forward to Moab, and hate missing out. Petr... We HAVE to get together. Glad you didn't get squashed by a meteor!

...I'm gonna try and get there Sat afternoon, to hang with you guys...( photo shoot CeCe??)

.....I'll know more nearer the time.

But certainly see you guys Sunday :thumbup:

Jo

[Donner]

you got a new trooper!? 2nd gen?
It's a '91 and almost completely rust free! You guys won't even know it's me ;)

86 Days!!



http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/33374208.jpg

[VX crazy]

Cece & I are going to miss out this year because we are going to Maui to celebrate her college graduation. However, we will be in Moab from the 10th to the 12th, and hope to see some early birds. We are road-tripping from Chi-Town to California in her Mitsubishi, so my VX will be absent as well.

We really look forward to Moab, and hate missing out. Petr... We HAVE to get together. Glad you didn't get squashed by a meteor!

You guys we plan on getting in Sunday to see Gil and Cece before they run off to the island! What time are you guys leaving?

[BigSwede]

It's a '91 and almost completely rust free! You guys won't even know it's me ;)

86 Days!!



http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/33374208.jpg

Wow, that thing is purty, looks like new!

It'll be great to see a few more Troopers there this year...some years recently you could count them on the fingers of one hand.

[Donner]

Wow, that thing is purty, looks like new!

It'll be great to see a few more Troopers there this year...some years recently you could count them on the fingers of one hand.
I just need to transfer all the good junk over from the '86. I could get a lot more stuff done to be ready if the weather would warm up a bit.
40 degrees today :) 30 and snow tomorrow:mad:

[Ldub]

It's a '91 and almost completely rust free! You guys won't even know it's me ;)

86 Days!!



http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/33374208.jpg

She's a beaut, Clark (https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT3ZaT9zxma6QUyTg0inyblP6TVCoDZv _UyaYZHhDiXFpHCBsPf)...:yesgray:

[BigSwede]

I just need to transfer all the good junk over from the '86. I could get a lot more stuff done to be ready if the weather would warm up a bit.
40 degrees today :) 30 and snow tomorrow:mad:

Wish it was that warm here, not bad today but they are talking a high of 7F on Tuesday.

I have been trying to keep the Trooper running all winter even though I won't drive it in road salt, been doing good but I waited too long this time, just tried to start the Trooper and the battery is pretty much dead, so I brought it into the house (the battery, not the Trooper) to warm up and then give it a charge.

[mcaramb]

Hey guys, driving in from Louisiana (over 1300 miles), and had a tire question. Do I need anything special for Moab? Was thinking of getting some mudding AT tires but as there will be ALOT of road driving just to get there, I wasn't sure what the best options would be for me. Right now I've got the stock 18" Rims with 245/60/R18 on em. Would prefer not to replace the rims or spare if possible. Can I just use regular road tires or is there a nice hybrid AT available. Also, limited budget... can spend maybe $150 per tire.
thanks, Mike

[BigSwede]

Don't buy mudders for Moab. If you want to get them for LA mud, then fine, but in Moab you are driving on sandstone bedrock most of the time, or dry sand. ATs are better than MTs out there, and street tires work very well traction-wise (right, Jack?) although they don't have as much sidewall durability as I would prefer.

[VX KAT]

Hey guys, driving in from Louisiana (over 1300 miles), and had a tire question. Do I need anything special for Moab? Was thinking of getting some mudding AT tires but as there will be ALOT of road driving just to get there, I wasn't sure what the best options would be for me. Right now I've got the stock 18" Rims with 245/60/R18 on em. Would prefer not to replace the rims or spare if possible. Can I just use regular road tires or is there a nice hybrid AT available. Also, limited budget... can spend maybe $150 per tire.
thanks, Mike

Many owners have done fine on street tires. No problem! I was on 255/50-18 street tires the first time. There's always a group that want to go on the easier trails that are doable by all. The harder trails (with names such as Steel Bender, Metal Masher..LOL :freek:) are usually only done by the gang that's lifted and has larger tires.

Some decent A/T hybrid kind of tires - Yokohoma Geolander AT/S, General Grabber AT2. And I'd even add the Nitto Terra Grappler as a great A/T yet great on road tire. I've had them for 10,000+ miles and they're very nice on road/highway. Most of these tires are near the $200/tire price.

I think you're price point may be a little hard to hit, but I'm sure others will chime in with some suggestions.

[nocturnalVX]

I speak from personal experience...
I switched from Pro Comp ATs to the cooler looking Xterrains, and the were GARBAGE in Moab. Bigger voids are good for mud, but you end up losing so much grip on any other surface that they are pointless. The stock all-season Duelers were better than the Xterrains! The looks do not balance the loss of performance, so I am back to ATs (this time BFGs).

[Cobrajet]

The only time I did any offroading I was wearing Kumho Ecsta STX tires in a 265/60R18 size, and had no problems keeping up with the group. They're great on road, too; handling is super, and there is absolutely no fit problems with cladding. They are currently $149.00 at Tirerack (http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Kumho&tireModel=Ecsta+STX+KL12&partnum=66VR8ESTX&vehicleSearch=false&fromCompare1=yes), so they also fit your budget.

[Scott Harness]

I speak from personal experience...
I switched from Pro Comp ATs to the cooler looking Xterrains, and the were GARBAGE in Moab. Bigger voids are good for mud, but you end up losing so much grip on any other surface that they are pointless. The stock all-season Duelers were better than the Xterrains! The looks do not balance the loss of performance, so I am back to ATs (this time BFGs).

X2...love BFG ATs

[ND92]

Hey guys, driving in from Louisiana (over 1300 miles), and had a tire question. Do I need anything special for Moab? Was thinking of getting some mudding AT tires but as there will be ALOT of road driving just to get there, I wasn't sure what the best options would be for me. Right now I've got the stock 18" Rims with 245/60/R18 on em. Would prefer not to replace the rims or spare if possible. Can I just use regular road tires or is there a nice hybrid AT available. Also, limited budget... can spend maybe $150 per tire.
thanks, Mike

I have cooper AT3's on mine. Ran Moab last year and those tires stuck like glue to the rocks. Hardly slipped at all for the whole trip. Mine were around $200 each but that's for a wider rim than stock.

[JoFotoz]

I dont really agree regarding "Mud" tires being bad for Moab.

I have consistently run Nitto Mud Grapplers at Moab ...
....and also driven other VX's there, with other brands.

I swear by my Mud Grapplers.....and just purchased a new set.
(They last very well... 5 years , and are not super noisy on normal roads)

When aired down correctly ( one of my issues on Hells Gate!)...

...I have found them excellent.

And...the big bonus is a very meaty/chunky side wall that offers all
kinds of additional traction and side wall protection.


JMHO :rolleyes:

Jo

[Triathlete]

Two words...


MAXXIS TREPEDORS :)

[BigSwede]

Mud tires arent bad per se; I have run MTs out there for years. But I wouldn't regard them as something the OP needs to have for Moab.

[JoFotoz]

Totally agree Steve...


Mud tires arent bad per se; I have run MTs out there for years. But I wouldn't regard them as something the OP needs to have for Moab.

..just not following the mudders are "garbage'" rhetoric!

Jo

[VXorado]

Mud tires arent bad per se; I have run MTs out there for years. But I wouldn't regard them as something the OP needs to have for Moab.


Totally agree Steve...



..just not following the mudders are "garbage'" rhetoric!

Jo

Agreed, MT/Rs did great last year and so did the terra grapplers in my 2010 trip. I'm still happy I had the MT/Rs last year for Cliff Hanger because there was a lot of lose dirt... although a stock VX probably won't be running Cliff Hanger so it doesn't matter either way.

[nocturnalVX]

Totally agree Steve...

..just not following the mudders are "garbage'" rhetoric!

Jo

I love the looks of the Mud Grapplers (even more than the Xterrains)... very Fred Flinstone, and I did not mean to dis all MT tires. I stand by my review of the Xterrains though. Aired down to 15-20 PSI, they provided nowhere near the grip of the ATs. I think the tread pattern has a lot to do with it. The Nittos tread overlaps, and if you have a MT with the same basic pattern of an AT... you are not constantly on the void half of the tire rather than the rubber half.


http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/thumbs/image12.jpg (http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=23314)http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/thumbs/image13.jpg (http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=23315)

Not to dis MTs again, but (unless you are red-lining through swamps all the time) don't get these...
http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/image10.jpg

[Ldub]

Not to dis MTs again, but (unless you are red-lining through swamps all the time) don't get these...
http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/image10.jpg

Now...wayda-minnit Gill...:_thinking

I think I'd like a set of tractor treads on tha trailer some day...:yes:

Just for sport'n around Moab & trails beyond...look'n all badass & stuff...:naughty:

Y'know...they should make some badash knobbies...with skulls for knobs...YOU know tha tire I want...:yesgray:

:laughing:...:laughing:...:laughing:...:laughing:. ..:laughing:...:laughing:...:laughing:... :laughing:...:laughing:...:laughing:

[nocturnalVX]

Y'know...they should make some badash knobbies...with skulls for knobs...YOU know tha tire I want...:yesgray:

:laughing:...:laughing:...:laughing:...:laughing:. ..:laughing:...:laughing:...:laughing:... :laughing:...:laughing:...:laughing:

Yup... Next time I buy a set of tires purely for looks, they are GONNA be rockin' some SKULLS!
:_beer:

[Triathlete]

Those tires are for atv/utv's.

[tjh]

Two words...


MAXXIS TREPEDORS :)
The Maxxis buckshots are garbage on slick rock for sure!:p

Jo, I don't yet know if I can make to moab, I gonna try like he!! .

[Triathlete]

The Maxxis buckshots are garbage on slick rock for sure!:p

Jo, I don't yet know if I can make to moab, I gonna try like he!! .

Ya gotta get the sticky competition compound!

[nocturnalVX]

Those tires are for atv/utv's.

Yet ANOTHER reason not to get them for your VX...

Does this qualify as :hj: yet? :disturbed

[tjh]

I booked room 122 at the red rock lodge.

[VX KAT]

I booked room 122 at the red rock lodge.

Awesome to hear Travis! :clap::clap: Looking forward to seeing you as always!

[JoFotoz]

x2..


Awesome to hear Travis! :clap::clap: Looking forward to seeing you as always!

...good on ya Travis.

Its shaping up to have a really good turnout.

Jo

[VX KAT]

How about a Russian member, folks? I will be in California in the first half of May... So - will you let me join you without a Vehicross? :)

Hey Petr I forgot to mention, you can drive my VX cuz there's some days I'm too weak and tired to drive, so I ride with Travis.
Seriously, you're welcome to drive mine. Now we're not talking the crazy trails like "Metal Masher" or "Steel Bender" but I've got steel skids so she can handle a lot. :thumbup:

[Triathlete]

Petr, don't mess around with those easy trails Sue mentioned...head straight to heldorado (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LLzV1uYPsfs), coyote (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WwA-ffZEiek) and britney spears (http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=related&v=ozcX5FQ_Uuo)! :)

[VX KAT]

Petr, don't mess around with those easy trails Sue mentioned...head straight to heldorado (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LLzV1uYPsfs), coyote (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WwA-ffZEiek) and britney spears (http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=related&v=ozcX5FQ_Uuo)! :)

Petr- you've got to forgive Triathlete for this post, you see, he was dropped on his head a few times as a baby. His Mother swore it was an accident, but, ummm�no one knows for sure.:_shrug:
And then again he took a few face plants while cycling over the years, so he sometimes is a little, um, goofy shall we say? :goof:
:disturbed:disturbed :goof:

[Triathlete]

Awww, come on, it will be fun! I'll even volunteer to spot! :D

[VX crazy]

I booked room 122 at the red rock lodge.

Well it looks like we are neighbors!

[mcaramb]

Ok guys, ended up with 255/60R18 Nitto Terra Grappler ATs. Ordered them from http://www.discounttiredirect.com
http://customwheel.com/custom_wheels/images/tg.jpg

$796 including FREE shipping. Still a bit over my budget, but not too shabby.

Thanks for all the advice!

-Mike

[BigSwede]

I had those Terra Grapplers on my old 99 Trooper, liked them a lot.

[MSHardeman]

Agreed. I'm on my second set of Terra Grapplers and they have performed well in everything that I have put them through (Moab trails to Colorado deep snow). You'll love 'em.:thumbup:

[MSHardeman]

OH, also; Travis, glad to see that you're going to make it back to Moab again this year. Looking forward to catching up soon.

[nocturnalVX]

Hey Petr I forgot to mention, you can drive my VX cuz there's some days I'm too weak and tired to drive, so I ride with Travis.
Seriously, you're welcome to drive mine. Now we're not talking the crazy trails like "Metal Masher" or "Steel Bender" but I've got steel skids so she can handle a lot. :thumbup:

Ummm, hey Sue. I guess you were not in Moab when Petr had his Technicolor Dream VX there. He has a rare vision disorder that prevents him from seeing giant boulders if they are directly in front of him. Now, I am NOT saying you should rethink letting him borrow your VX... Just make sure there are always 6 to 10 other VXers nearby to yell "STOP!!!" :freek:

Hey Petr... How do you say STOP in Russian? :rotate:

[JoFotoz]

LOL..Cold war redux!

Petr did have a certain 'style'!!

As for STOP in Russian... CTON....


( roughly pronounced as 'stoy"...and the N is not quit right but my keyboard wont play ..! )

:rolleyes:

Jo

[tom4bren]

I'm sorry to say that Bren & I are out for Moab 2013 due to a conflicting family obligation. Moab is still #1 on my bucket list though.

[Ldub]

I'm sorry to say that Bren & I are out for Moab 2013 due to a conflicting family obligation. Moab is still #1 on my bucket list though.

:(.....:(.....:(.....:(.....:(

[tom4bren]

:(.....:(.....:(.....:(.....:(

That's what I said!!!!

It REALLY sux when life interferes with fun.

[bartmanS4]

I'm IN! I just made reservations at the Hampton Inn. Free stay 'cause I used my points. Gotta get my VX all pretty before I take it out there and rough it up though.
If I get myself back in shape I'll probably bring my mountain bike too. Any other riders bringing a bike?
Cheers,
Scott

[MSHardeman]

Excellent Scott. Can't wait to meet you, but strange that we'll meet in Moab when we both live in the same state. I think that we're trying to get a little convoy heading over on the Sunday before Moab if you can/want to go.

I've brought my bike to Moab in the past, but usually end up not using it because I get so into wheeling trails and hanging out with the Zu folks. I think my girlfriend and I will be bringing our bikes this year but we haven't decided on road or mountain yet. I know, I know; Moab is the mountainbiking capital of the world, but the gf has just started to mountainbike and is not really comfortable on it yet. Still have some time to decide.

[Chris Perosi]

I really wanna get out there this year. I have the girlfriend convinced (she loved it when we drove through there in June) so it's just about work at this point. Do you guys know how much availability there is still at the Red Rock?

It will be nice to get out there for another Zu Zoo.... For those of you that don't know me I was heavily involved with the Zu Zoo that started back in 98... First 2 or 3 years were as they are now -- loosely organized, etc. Then the BLM got on our backs and made us incorporate and charge event fees for permitting, insurance, etc... We had to provide inspections at the event -- it went from fun to a whole bunch of work, so I'm glad to see it's back to fun. :-) Looking forward to meeting a bunch of you there.

[JoFotoz]

Hiya Chris

Give the Red Rock a buzz..they are filling up pretty fast.
Dont forget to ask for the "VX" group discount..its worth 15%..

...and covers non VX's too :cool:

Jo

[twalker920]

If I get myself back in shape I'll probably bring my mountain bike too. Any other riders bringing a bike?

My friend who's bringing his 5th wheel out will be mountain biking some of the time. Be warned, he's pretty hardcore, and he may have a couple of his mtn biking friends with him.

I will be leaving my mountain bike at home, but I might bring my motorcycle in the 5th wheel's "garage" (yep, it's a big one). Mostly just to cruise around town.

I will also be doing some photography, including night sky stuff. Any other photo buffs out there (besides Jo!)?

Edit: I'm not excluding Jo...I just already know he's an awesome photog ;)

[Craig]

Hope you make it, Chris. It would be good to see another one of the old timers.

[nocturnalVX]

Cece & I will be arriving at The Stoop on Thursday, May 9th. We are going to spend a few days doing the touristy thing, and we will head to California on the 12th. I know some of y'all are planning to get into Moab early, and we look forward to seeing you. We are going to be spending a week in Maui to celebrate her graduation from college, so we are going to miss wheeling and all the fun around The Stoop. Have fun, be safe, and TAKE LOTS OF PICTURES!!!

[Etfren]

I will also be doing some photography, including night sky stuff. Any other photo buffs out there (besides Jo!)?

Edit: I'm not excluding Jo...I just already know he's an awesome photog ;)

I'd like to think of myself as a bit of a photo buff too. I brought my tri-pod last year and got some cool night shots of the Stoop and all the VX's parked up for the night. Took just over 500 pictures last year. :)

[nocturnalVX]

Maybe one of you pro photographers that took pics at The Stoop could print an 8x10 to give the kind folks at the Red Rock as a thank you for being so hospitable? Hmmm?
:thumbup:

[don moore]

need to change all the fluids ..and now we have a new activities director.. im the lead .ill try to drive it ..but i think the gas will kill me .ill try ..not sure about lodging ...might have to tent it .

[Triathlete]

All the cool kids "tent it" :)

[Ldub]

All the cool kids "tent it" :)

And the other 89.3% stay in structures that offer the essential amenities...:yesgray:

We can't ALL be cool...:cool:

Who would be left to admire YOU?...:_thinking

[ABDragonVX]

I'd be interested in bringing my mtn bike, but I'm thinking abou Vegas the weekend prior and I'm not sure where I'd leave it...

[VX KAT]

I'd be interested in bringing my mtn bike, but I'm thinking abou Vegas the weekend prior and I'm not sure where I'd leave it...

Where to leave it in Vegas or when you're in Moab?

[ABDragonVX]

Both hehe

[VX KAT]

Both hehe

There's a few VXers in Vegas, maybe they could keep it in their garage?
And in Moab, can leave it in one of the VXers' rooms, like mine.
Nova isn't on the forum that much recently, so email would prob be best there.
I met up with both Jim and Nova in August for the calendar shoot, great guys.
SilverBullet75 (Jim)
http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/IMG_0180.JPG
Prcdpnknova (Nova)
http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/medium/175.jpg

[VX KAT]

For all you first timers coming to Moab, and for everybody, thought I'd post one of the general Moab prep lists.
Attached Word file at bottom.

MOAB PREP LIST

EQUIPMENT:
-- CB radio
-- CB antenna
-- GPS or Compass
-- Tire pressure gauge
-- Tire deflators
-- Tire repair kit
-- Air compressor
-- Bottle Jack
-- Jumper cables
-- 20' - 30' -Tow strap/rope
-- Shackles/D-rings/Clevis
-- Tow hook
-- Gloves
-- 4-way tire iron /Gorilla Power wrench
-- Ratchet straps
-- Bungie cords
-- Piece of wood to put under jack
-- Various maps/trail books
-- Flashlight/ Spare batteries
-- Multi-tool
-- Fold-up camping shovel
-- Hatchet
-- First Aid kit
-- Snake bit kit
-- Cell phone & charger
-- FRS radios
-- OTHER: ________________________________


TOOLS:
-- Ratchet Socket Set – SAE & Metric
-- Screw driver with bits
-- Pliers - a few different sizes
-- 22mm full size and stubby wrench
-- Breaker bar/3’ pipe
-- Knife
-- OTHER_________________________________


SUPPLIES:
-- Fuses
-- 4 quarts of oil
-- 1 quart ATF
-- Oil funnel
-- PCV valve
-- Spare radiator hose / belts
-- Electrical tape
-- Gorilla / Duct tape
-- WD-40/Silicone spray Wire
-- HD zipties
-- Fix-a-Flat
-- Rags /shop towels/ Paper towels
-- OTHER: ________________________________


PERSONAL ITEMS:
-- Water - Water - Water
-- Hat
-- Hiking poles
-- Binoculars
-- Camera/Video gear
-- Windex
-- Garbage bag
-- Toilet paper
-- Zip lock bags
-- OTHER: ________________________________

[JoFotoz]

Hi ABDragon...


I'd be interested in bringing my mtn bike, but I'm thinking abou Vegas the weekend prior and I'm not sure where I'd leave it...

...Sue is right, Red Rock room...HOWEVER, Red Rock also has a dedictated "Bike Shed " for locking them up.
As for Vegas, "Valet Park it ":p..seriously..I've done it at the Imperial Palace, I assume other will....cost me $5 for 3 days ...and peace of mind!

Cheers

jo

[JoFotoz]

OK..just changed my Red Rock booking ....

Now arriving noon-ish on May 11th.....to hook up with Brotha Gill and Sista CeCe :thumbup:

We'll warm up the Stoop ..... :cool:

Jo

[Ldub]

-- Piece of wood to put under jack


A little known fact about my friend PB Kid...evvy time we stop on tha trail, he sits his @$$ down on a piece of wood...:_confused

Never seen nuth'n like it in all my days...:_thinking

:rotate:.:flower:.:laughing:.:heart:

[ND92]

It's settled!!!! My previous engagement has solved itself in one day instead of 9 weeks. So I leave here on the 10th and arrive at the stoop sometime on the 12 (when ever I get my fat Canadian *** out of bed)
Can't wait to see everyone again and can't wait to see new faces.

[ABDragonVX]

thanks for the info on the bike stuff. sounds like the list is built for people who plan to 4x4 hehe. nd92 (Stefan if i recall?) when are you bringing your fat *** back to Canada? maybe we could convoy :)
plan to date for me hangs in the balance...depending on if my girlfriend has to work mothers day. plan A is vegas then moab if she can get out of work. plan B involves moab after mothers day and if we can fit it in we`d like to see zion national park.

~ anyone know how much it will cost per night at the stoop?

[VXorado]

It's settled!!!! My previous engagement has solved itself in one day instead of 9 weeks. So I leave here on the 10th and arrive at the stoop sometime on the 12 (when ever I get my fat Canadian *** out of bed)
Can't wait to see everyone again and can't wait to see new faces.

Good news!!! :_beer:



~ anyone know how much it will cost per night at the stoop?

Depends on the room but plan for around $60-$70/night with the VX meet discount.

[VX KAT]

It's settled!!!! My previous engagement has solved itself in one day instead of 9 weeks.

life? death? Does CA have D.P.?

[nocturnalVX]

If you need an excuse to extend your stay in Moab...

Cece & I are checking out on the 12th, and would LOVE to spend a little time with the VX fam before heading out. Jo and (maybe) Mark are going to get in on the 11th... How about YOU?
:naughty:

[BigSwede]

Current plan is to arrive Saturday the 11th.

[ND92]

nd92 (Stefan if i recall?) when are you bringing your fat *** back to Canada? maybe we could convoy :)


Im leaving on the 18th sometime, maybe get a quick trail in before I leave and then probably get into Canerduh by the 20th. :thumbup:



life? death? Does CA have D.P.?
I wish CA had D.P it would make life a lot better. But its 2 Degree M with Prole at 10yrs :yesgray:

[nocturnalVX]

Current plan is to arrive Saturday the 11th.

Awesome! :_beer:

[pbkid]

A little known fact about my friend PB Kid...evvy time we stop on tha trail, he sits his @$$ down on a piece of wood...:_confused

Never seen nuth'n like it in all my days...:_thinking

:rotate:.:flower:.:laughing:.:heart:

No one likes to sit in the dirt before they get back into their truck... Plain and simple. :)
Good catch dub.

[VX crazy]

Awesome! :_beer:

Sorry Gil we wont get to hang with you two before Moab, we will be spending a couple days before in Sedona on our way to Moab. SOOOOO we will just have to do all our catching up in FARGO, ya you betcha! When are you guys getting there?

[don moore]

Anyone from my part oh the contry going? Maybe a road trip run together.

[pbkid]

Anyone from my part oh the contry going? Maybe a road trip run together.

Im trying to get to my cousin to come down, he doesnt have a vx, but he is coming from WA, and its always good to have another vehicle in case of emergencies or vehicle troubles.

[Etfren]

I'l coming down from WA as well. Planning to leave Sunday afternoon sometime, stay overnight in a rest area or whatever and roll into Moab on Monday. Worked fine last year, just gotta leave earlier on Sunday so I don't have as long of a drive on Monday.

[AirAmigo]

I'l coming down from WA as well. Planning to leave Sunday afternoon sometime, stay overnight in a rest area or whatever and roll into Moab on Monday. Worked fine last year, just gotta leave earlier on Sunday so I don't have as long of a drive on Monday.

I'll be towing my Amigo to Moab, shall we caravan? :bgwo: I live in Prosser, WA...which is halfway between Yakima and Tri-Cities.

Thanks,
Keith
5094399680

[don moore]

well.. grrrr i just tore 2 right rotator cuff muscles in my arm..doc said not to drive much....Ill try to take it easy and see if im better by then...cross your fingers..

Growing old is not for sissies

[twalker920]

So....yet another unexpected health issue came up last week (I drove myself to the ER and ended up in hospital for 3 days).

Result: I have negative time off at work now, which is awesome. So I don't know if they are going to let me go more in to debt to come out to Moab :( :( :(

It's going to depend on how busy we are at the time. I may just have to mutiny and leave....

I'm SOOOOO frustrated!

[vt_maverick]

On a related note, be careful if hiking near the arch - you never know who might hit you on the way to their own demise:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/03/25/us-usa-arch-death-idUSBRE92O13820130325

[nocturnalVX]

On a related note, be careful if hiking near the arch - you never know who might hit you on the way to their own demise:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/03/25/us-usa-arch-death-idUSBRE92O13820130325

100 foot arch? Check!
150 foot rope? Check!
OK, let's go!
:slap:

[Etfren]

Woohoo, got my rooms booked! 119 and 125. :)

[BigSwede]

Five wrenching weekends left before Moab...doesn't seem like enough.

[VXorado]

So....yet another unexpected health issue came up last week (I drove myself to the ER and ended up in hospital for 3 days).

Result: I have negative time off at work now, which is awesome. So I don't know if they are going to let me go more in to debt to come out to Moab :( :( :(

It's going to depend on how busy we are at the time. I may just have to mutiny and leave....

I'm SOOOOO frustrated!

Hopefully you can make it Tom. Let me know. :(


Woohoo, got my rooms booked! 119 and 125. :)

:_beer:


Five wrenching weekends left before Moab...doesn't seem like enough.

I'm with you Swede. Too many project to finish... again. :_brickwal

[JoFotoz]

NO KIDDING....


I'm with you Swede. Too many project to finish... again. :_brickwal

.....and then there's that shindig in Fargo getting in the way :eek:

Jo

[BigSwede]

NO KIDDING....



.....and then there's that shindig in Fargo getting in the way :eek:

Jo

Heh, yep that takes one weekend...cabin opening takes another...that leaves 3 weekends for wrenching for me. Some of the "optional" stuff might not get done...again.

[MSHardeman]

I really don't like it when you guys narrow the time down to number of weekends left. I don't really have much to do to Vicki, but I still feel like there isn't enough time. On the other hand it means that Moab is that much closer. :clap:

I ended up extending my Moab stay by a day so I will be checking in a day earlier. Jo, Gill and Cece.....I'll see y'all on Saturday. WOOT!!

[twalker920]

Boss said just go. So I am going :)

Convoy ho!

[VXorado]

Good News!!! :thumbup:

[JoFotoz]

X2...


Good News!!! :thumbup:

Thats great news Tom...

...good on yer Boss!

Jo

[bartmanS4]

Boss said just go. So I am going :)

Convoy ho!

Warning! That sounds a lot like when you ask your wife what's wrong and she says "nothing".

Glad you are going, our convoy should draw a few looks! I am getting stoked!

[Etfren]

Spent all day under the VX yesterday and got a ton of stuff done, but found even more thats broken or worn out. Should have started getting it ready sooner, but I think everyone does that every year. :)

[JoFotoz]

I think we can ditch "Zen and the art of motorcycle maintenance"...

..and substitute "Procrastination and the Art Of VX preparation"


At least this year I have the mechanicals done and tested ...

..its all insert paint/re-assembly and some mods to finish.

:smack:...:dance:...:smack:

jo

[Triathlete]

My to-do list is...
Rear axle seals
change cv shafts
new trans pan gasket
oil/filter change
New tires
Alignment

[Triathlete]

Pack creek campers...
don't know if you saw this on their website but if you pay with silver coins (ie all silver 50¢ or dollar coins) tent sites are only 50¢ a night and RV sites are a dollar a day...start saving those coins!
Also if you are active duty military you stay free...they just appreciate a unit patch!

[JoFotoz]

Dealomania!!


Pack creek campers...
don't know if you saw this on their website but if you pay with silver coins (ie all silver 50� or dollar coins) tent sites are only 50� a night and RV sites are a dollar a day...start saving those coins!
Also if you are active duty military you stay free...they just appreciate a unit patch!

http://www.packcreekcampground.com/pricing.html

Check it out..Ya need Pre 1964 Silver coins.

:thumbup:

jo

[Gizmo42]

Dont think I've seen any of those in about 30 years.

My to-do list is build a rear bumper and install Revo gears. Both of which I doubt I will get done.

[Triathlete]

Luckily the wife works at a casino...sees lots of coin! :)

[BigSwede]

$1 face value in 90% silver coins is worth $20-25 today in silver bullion value.

http://bullion.nwtmint.com/silver_bags.php

[BigSwede]

This weather ain't helping my preparations...winter storm warning for tomorrow and Thursday.

[bartmanS4]

yeah, we were supposed to get a foot plus and so far only about 2", cold and windy though. Must be nice having a job you can be right at only 30% of the time and still make great money. At least they look pretty on TV :_wtf:

[ND92]

Ordered some diff drop brackets and crossmember from Mr Darlington. Ive been trying to do as much work as i can so i can afford a lift before Moab.

[MSHardeman]

We could always do the lift AT Moab.:thumbup: That's where my lift was done.

[Ldub]

We could always do the lift AT Moab.:thumbup: That's where my lift was done.

Not gonna be doing no diff drops & cross member in Moab...:_wrench:.:nogray:.:smilewink

I'm nice, but not completely insane...:_confused

Now iff'n the youngster want's to bring tha spring(s) &/or spacers...I'm all in...:_wrench:.:yesgray:

[BigSwede]

Not gonna be doing no diff drops & cross member in Moab...:_wrench:.:nogray:.:smilewink


Lol, yeah I'd be in "watchin' from the stoop, beer in hand" mode for that one...been there done that little operation more times than I care to admit, and hated it each time.

[Triathlete]

Aw bummer...I was thinkin "man, I gotta get me some diff drop brackets before I leave" :)

[ND92]

Not gonna be doing no diff drops & cross member in Moab...:_wrench:.:nogray:.:smilewink

I'm nice, but not completely insane...:_confused

Now iff'n the youngster want's to bring tha spring(s) &/or spacers...I'm all in...:_wrench:.:yesgray:

Hahahaha no worries Sir Dub, if the brackets dont get here in time for me to install them before I head down then I wont be lifting this trip.


Lol, yeah I'd be in "watchin' from the stoop, beer in hand" mode for that one...been there done that little operation more times than I care to admit, and hated it each time.

Well that scares me a little bit. Is it that hard?

[BigSwede]

It's not so much the difficulty as the fact that, from an engineering standpoint, dropping the front axle is way more of a PITA than it has to be...it just wasn't designed for frequent maintenance.

If you can convince/sucker a buddy to help you when it comes time to drop the brackets and center axle section, you'll find the project a lot easier. Plan for a full day, especially the first time.

[Triathlete]

For those going to Moab, I have a good set of oem front shocks, rear lower links (one slightly bent but easy to fix) and a new front cladding for sale that I could deliver. If interested throw me a pm.

[JoFotoz]

Hiya Billy..


For those going to Moab, I have a good set of oem front shocks, rear lower links (one slightly bent but easy to fix) and a new front cladding for sale that I could deliver. If interested throw me a pm.

...maybe get in touch with Melissa over at F/book VX.

She is looking for Front Cladding.

I gave her a heads up that you have one.

jo

[Triathlete]

Thanks Jo!

[AirAmigo]

I received my lodging reservation today, I will be staying at Pack Creek campground.

[Mile High VX]

Someone should try this at Moab...:bgwo::bgwb::bwgy::smilewink

http://news.yahoo.com/lightbox/saudi-youths-demonstrate-a-stunt-known-as-sidewall-skiing-in-the-northern-city-of-hail-photo--957922896.html

Photos or it didn't happen..

[VX crazy]

Someone should try this at Moab...:bgwo::bgwb::bwgy::smilewink

http://news.yahoo.com/lightbox/saudi-youths-demonstrate-a-stunt-known-as-sidewall-skiing-in-the-northern-city-of-hail-photo--957922896.html

Photos or it didn't happen..

I agree! I can drive someone else's truck while a few of you hold on!

[Triathlete]

Someone should try this at Moab...:bgwo::bgwb::bwgy::smilewink

http://news.yahoo.com/lightbox/saudi-youths-demonstrate-a-stunt-known-as-sidewall-skiing-in-the-northern-city-of-hail-photo--957922896.html

Photos or it didn't happen..

I will give it a go...













...in YOUR VX!!!!! :D

[orion]

Lisa will do that in my VX...... Who wants to ride on the outside with me, I figure we need two more...:bwgy:

[JoFotoz]

I do believe Justin and I did something pretty close...

...a few years ago :eek:

OK..OK..we were leaning on a rock wall..but same angle!

jo

[Triathlete]

I do believe Justin and I did something pretty close...

...a few years ago :eek:

OK..OK..we were leaning on a rock wall..but same angle!

jo

Been there, done that! :D

[Dumke]

As some of you may already know I will not be gracing you will my presense this year. Vx still being in 2WD and life in general came up. So this year I will be a "watcher" waiting for the antics and the pictures that follow.


Till next year.

[Scott Harness]

:( Gonna have to bow out this year,had a good run,8 years in a row!
room 108 will be open in a few days,if anybody needs it

[MSHardeman]

Boooo Scott.:( Going to miss seeing you around The Stoop this year. Just won't be the same without you. There's always next year.:thumbup:

[Triathlete]

Boooo Scott.:( Going to miss seeing you around The Stoop this year. Just won't be the same without you. There's always next year.:thumbup:

X2 and Dumke too...


...I like green eggs and ham, Sam I am...

[VXorado]

Bummer Dumke & Scott... see you next year. :winkgray:

[JoFotoz]

x2


Bummer Dumke & Scott... see you next year. :winkgray:

:(

Jo

[VX crazy]

x2



:(

Jo

I may as well stay home..........:waab::_crying::_crying::waab:

[JoFotoz]

Yea, ya may as well...


I may as well stay home..........:waab::_crying::_crying::waab:

...cuase no one else is worth hang'n out with :mad:

:dan_ban:

jo

[ssericz]

Anyone camping this year have a space and want to split it? Decided last second we arnt missing it after all of last years malfunctions