The reason I chose "Tip Toe" for Wednesday is that the Copper Ridge (Elephant Hill?) trail is an hour outside Moab, and I'm just not interested in wasting 2 hours getting to & from the trail on more highway driving (after 1500 miles). The only places around here to go off-roading are hours away in other states. My off-roading (except for Zu Zoo V) so far has been 2 trips to the Badlands in Indiana...doing the same trail in Utah 2 days in a row will be MUCH cooler than my daily commute to work, plus it'll be with the other Zoids... can't wait to see everyone again (and those that were not there last year).