Quote Originally Posted by curtains
I already know from talking to the salesman that it was a least VX it has 84,000 miles on it and he wants $14,000 for it.
That's too much money, and it's probably beat up. For 14k, you can get a lot more VX than that. Trust me, I know. I just sold my beautiful '01 Proton w/ 46k miles for the same price. Be patient. Shop around. I would offer the dealer $11k tops. Show him you're serious, but let him know you know what the car is "worth" (i.e. what he paid for it). If he wants to move it, he'll sell. If you're not picky about color, you can do better on price. Yellow and black go for a premium.