State vs aftermarket exhaust

[tbigity]

Which brings me back to my original point. Their behavior was dictated by the situation they were put in. They weren't told exactly how to do their role, but the roles were fairly clearly defined for them by Dr. Zimbardo (and not so much by preconceived ideas like I suggested previously and you seem to be supporting).

Well, I suppose then we are ill-equipped for the discussion at hand. Non of us being authorities on the matter. We took an in-depth study of this in one of my psychology classes and I am realting what the findings where in the "zimbardo kit". It was something my professor got her hands on...not sure of where, could have been zimbardo's group. In any event, the point made then, is the point that still makes the most sense to me: behavior is dictated by how you think it should be executed.

It was an experiment. Like any experiment, it had its controls and its variables. Being 4 years out of psychology, I suppose I forgot some of the finer points of their instruction from Zimbardo. But never were they told how to brutalize the inmates. As you read it no doubt you read how they got down right violent with them iirc.


My point is, I changed my major from psych and you are getting your information from an internet writeup...neither is really equipped to debate one of the most major psychological studies of our day. Especially when we are approaching the information no doubt trying to find evidence that supports our theories.

Like I said, I am not saying this is what it shows to me...I am saying this is what the professors said it was highlighting and all the evidence at the time pointed to the same conclusion.

[Ldub]

The exhaust system with zimbardo mufflers ??? is legal in which states again?

[tbigity]

DUDE! You havent heard the Zimbardo mufflers? NOOB! They cause much dissention and their loudness is largely dictated by the loudness that they think they should be based on previous muffler experience...or based on the loudness they are told to be, I suppose. In an event...

wormgod, you want your thread back? :

[JAFO]

Here is an example of a very subjective law:

Oregon Revised Statute:

815.025 Causing unreasonable noise with vehicle; penalty. (1) A person commits the offense of causing unreasonable noise with a vehicle if the person operates upon any highway any motor vehicle so as to cause any greater noise or sound than is reasonably necessary for the proper operation of the vehicle.

(2) The offense described in this section, causing unreasonable noise with a vehicle, is a Class D traffic violation. [1983 c.338 §438; 1987 c.158 §171; 1995 c.383 §22]
http://www.leg.state.or.us/ors/815.html

[WormGod]

Passing gas in a public place is fairly unreasonable as well. Lock us all up.