Acura NSX

[etlsport]

not quite as extreme but ive always thought the Subaru SVX was similar to the VX in a lot of ways, short production time, limited parts, unorthodox looks (not quite as bad as the vx, but the double windows draw some looks) and almost all of their owners have a mild obsession with them

[blacksambo]

Look the NSX was the first Japanese successful concept cum production model (syline etc. pretenders after the fact), the VX was the second. The Datsun Fair Ladies and Toyota GT's were unsuccessful attempts at auto imortality. Remember when a manufacturer offers refreshment they believe they've achieved auto ValHalla. Porsche does the same for its 356's. If VX teams with NSX, representing the range of true excitment motoring applications the auto history books will be indelibly marked forever. It's up to us to act now.

[transio]

If VX teams with NSX, representing the range of true excitment motoring applications the auto history books will be indelibly marked forever. It's up to us to act now.

You're a little overzealoous. Relative to Japanese automotive history, the two vehicles are the tip of the pyramid, but relative to worldwide automotive history, neither is really memorable, least of all the NSX. At least the VX innovates in several ways (TOD, AWD + 4WD, 50% cladding, remote-reservoir shocks). It has some potential long-term, but there have to be followers for it to be an innovator. If it's the first and last of its kind, it's just an anomaly - like amphicars or 6x6s.

The NSX is an anemic V6 mid-engine wannabe "super" car... doesn't hold a candle to other mid-engined cars (Ferrari, Lamborghini, or even Lotus, to name a few). It excels at nothing, but is satisfactory at everything, making it a typical Honda execution of a concept (in this case, a sports car). While its mild manners and excellent balance make it a good track car for people of all skill levels, its lack of power and abundance of luxuries make it fall behind. And its not even very attractive - having mild features all around (also typical of Honda).

[tbigity]

i dare anyone to follow up transios comments...

go on...



DO IT!

Nicely said man. The only true allure that they both share in common to me is the rarity. Usually when an NSX passes me i simply go "what the...oh...acura" and forget about it. "Mild" said it best. I would venture to say that there are far more impressive car combinations out there, especially if you are trying to meld several completely unique (if not just great) features. Like the uber lite frame of an elise with the quadra steering of the sierra (i know I am grasping at straws on this one) and the body of a VX or baja...shoot, anything that is rare and attractive to some extent.

[transio]

Ty, is that you?!

Sounds like you just described something very close to the Lotus APX concept.

[tbigity]

hey, you found me out.

i couldnt help but look at the pix of the 2 cars together and not think "hey, what if" and it seemed like an appropriate place to post bout it. Looks like you already beat me to the idea though.

As we never got to take a spin in the lotus I dunno how she turns, but the VX turning is sexy! And I thought if you melded the two ideas you would need to spread the wheel base a bit. That being my only complaint with any modern-day muscle cars...the turning radii suck! Add quadra stear and bam...

anywho....yes, yes it is me :-)

[transio]

As we never got to take a spin in the lotus I dunno how she turns, but the VX turning is sexy!

You don't know what you missed... it's like driving a race car on the street. Of course, the VX with Bilsteins and wide stance is probably at the top of road-handling SUVs... maybe behind a Cayenne, X5, and FX45.

[moon buggy]

Hey transio...a bit harsh speaking of the NSX in such a fashion, as an owner obviously my opinion is quite different....

Hey etlsport...this will warm your heart ..prior to me jumping into the NSX I owned 2 SVX, an excellent car. Of course the NSX is greater [in my opinion] than the SVX, but then again 2nd hand here in Australia SVX are about 25% of the price of a good NSX. I have very warm memories of the SVX...another "X" car...

[transio]

Hey transio...a bit harsh speaking of the NSX in such a fashion, as an owner obviously my opinion is quite different....

Don't get me wrong, I think the NSX is an awesome car! I thought of getting one myself at one time. But let's not make it what it's not, ok? It's not groundbreaking in any way. It's not even class-leading. It's a 350 hp, v6 powered, mid-engined, cushy, nice-looking, mild-mannered, high-end sports car. It's not a supercar. It's not an innovator. It's not a breakthrough. It's on par with a 911 GT3, Jag XKR, Aston Martin AMV8 or DB9, Lotus Esprit, Viper GTS, Corvette Z06, and a host of other high-end sports cars. The only distinguishing feature is that it's a unique offering from Japan. It's not a Ferrari 360CS, or a Lamborghini Gallardo, or even a Ford GT. Even a $65k C6 Z06 will tear it apart on the track.

That's not harsh... that's reality. :shrug: