Israel vs. Hezb'Allah

[nfpgasmask]

Hey Noc!

And just where have you been? I tried to PM you but your box was full!

Bart

PS - I saw The The with Depeche Mode years ago, good show.

The band's name... THE THE.
The album... MIND BOMB.
The song... Armageddon Days Are Here (Again)
The chorus... "ISLAM is rising. The Christians mobilising. The world is on it's elbows & knees. It's forgotten the message & worships the creeds."



I agree... I'd rather BBQ, watch a movie or cartoons, play video games, go for a ride on my motorcycle, have a couple drinks with friends, see a concert, etc. than blow myself up because somebody believes something different than I do... I can not even begin to see how ANYBODY would choose to feel opposite of that. I'm going to go for a ride.

[E-ZooZoo One]

I dare not offer more than the following two quotes; both of which express my opinions on the subject FAR better than I could manage myself:


“We despise all reverences and all the objects of reverence which are outside the pale of our own list of sacred things. And yet, with strange inconsistency, we are shocked when other people despise and defile the things which are holy to us.”

-AND-

“So much blood has been shed by the Church because of an omission from the Gospel: "Ye shall be indifferent as to what your neighbor's religion is." Not merely tolerant of it, but indifferent to it. Divinity is claimed for many religions; but no religion is great enough or divine enough to add that new law to its code.”

- Mark Twain

[tomdietrying]

E-Zoo Zoo One,
That says it all. Touche'
Peace.
Tom

[WyrreJ]

I think Israel is shooting itself in the foot.

Their best hope for reducing hezbollah's influence is for a strong lebanese government. One that governs well so that the country has prosperity, a prosperity that the population at large has a vested interest in maintaining and one that enforces the laws so that it locks up hezbollah members that don't care about prosperity anyway and are plotting and to do violence against israel and others.

By destroying so much of the public infrastructure in lebanon all israel accomplishes is the weakening of the lebanese government, and probably one of the best recruiting campaigns ever for hezbollah.

My impression is that with Sharon out of the picture, the current coalition government in israel is very weak. And that by beating the crap out of lebanon they are appealing to the war hawks to strengthen the coalition at a very heavy price in reduced national security in the near and forseeable future.

[Chopper]

I think the Lebanon I remember as a 16 year old ('69-'70) was one of the most beautiful, magical,places in the world. A cosmopolitan, almost European style...some how infused with 6000 years of culture and continuity. The place where humans first learned seafaring,the result being,a place made up of little bits of the whole worlds ideas and ways. My description comes up short. I look now and feel only hollow. When all the humans are gone, maybe then the Cedars will regrow... it will be beautiful again.

[thebear54]

VX TALK...........YES

POLITICS.........NO

Although sympathetic this is NOT a subject for a Car Club Forum

There is no need for any kind of conflict or war if people would stop reacting with emotions instead of good common sense and the brains which God gave all of us.

John

[Soulpower]

Even though this is a car forum, I (and probably most on this forum) see this more as a VX OWNER'S, their FAMILIES & COMMUNITY forum. Hence, over the years, I've felt fortunate to be "included" in other members' general "triumphs, trials and tribulations". It w'ld be a sad day when members are no longer allowed to express themselves on other topics other than the VX. Nuff said!

[ZEUS]

I think the Lebanon I remember as a 16 year old ('69-'70) was one of the most beautiful, magical,places in the world. A cosmopolitan, almost European style...some how infused with 6000 years of culture and continuity. The place where humans first learned seafaring,the result being,a place made up of little bits of the whole worlds ideas and ways. My description comes up short. I look now and feel only hollow. When all the humans are gone, maybe then the Cedars will regrow... it will be beautiful again.

Chopper, that's great... poetic even.
In man as a whole, sometimes the only thing that seems to be evolving is the use of technology, propaganda, and weaponry to display power. True power would be to overcome the urge to have it. If there is a Godhead which created all Chopper described above and more why would it also create a "religious following" so vain to destroy it? I think we are all witness to a glorified gang war full of excuses! The innocents of the neighborhoods suffer the most and there is more than one way to fall victim... How can it end when those who fight fail to see what they should be fighting for?

[WyrreJ]

I can second Chopper. My aunt spent most of high school there (my grandfather worked for Aramco for a while) and she has said that it was an incredible place.