Yeah, I had a dealership offer me $5000 for my '99 with 103k miles; NADA has mine being worth $8900 trade-in or $11100 retail, but Edmunds lists it as $4843 trade-in or $7895 retail. That's a huge difference! I think NADA estimates what a vehicle should be worth, whereas Edmunds "TMV" is based more on reported sales, which shows how many folks are selling their VX'es for way less than they're worth.