I'd trade the VX for this...

[VehiGAZ]

Ukraine is STRONG!!

;-)

[Andrey]

Comon - I am from Ukraine.... they should make something good right ? Did you see that plane Mriya ? THE LARGEST cargo plane in the world
http://www.aerospaceweb.org/aircraft...5/pics01.shtml


and now this. How about I go there - negotiate a group deal with comrades so we can save some money together,

The yellow banner on the car says "Mayor of Kiev"

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Did you see that plane Mriya ? THE LARGEST cargo plane in the world

You mean besides Hughes' "Spruce Goose" right? Since when is bigger a good thing, anyway?

[LiquidVX]

I thought the Airbus Beluga was now the worlds largest.

[mbeach]

Large cargo planes require large runways and specialized material handling equipment.

Bigger is not better. That's why the C-130 is still being used -it has watched far larger cargo aircraft come and go for 50 years.

[VehiGAZ]

Andrey, I am Ukrainian too! Ukrainian-American, anyway. My parents are from Lviv and Ivano-Frankivsk, but met and married here in the US. They were refugees during WW2.

We should get together for some horilka!

[Joe Izusu]

Awesome

[Andrey]

Andrey, I am Ukrainian too! Ukrainian-American, anyway. My parents are from Lviv and Ivano-Frankivsk, but met and married here in the US. They were refugees during WW2.

We should get together for some horilka!

Cool ! When I was a child I've traveled to Ivano-Frankivsk. Never been to Lviv - people say it is nice and University there is very good - especially Latin department - trust me I know... I had a Latin professor from Lviv University.

[Andrey]

You mean besides Hughes' "Spruce Goose" right? Since when is bigger a good thing, anyway?

Here is the answer - for now it is the largest plane in the world... see bottom of the web page for details on standards in measuring planes - measurment by weight rather then wingspan...

http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/design/q0188.shtml

[Hotsauce]

http://www.topwords.com.ua/Mobilnews/2006/03/m1864.htm

rough translation:

"Yesterday under Vitaly Klitschko's patronage, the first Ukrainian jeep developed has been presented and collected by engineers of the company 'the Kremenchug motor transportation enterprise' creation for a basis has been taken a military complex the Chain armour. In spite of the fact that the peace car, instead of the militarian, the case of the machine The first Ukrainian jeep 5 meter length and 2 meter heights. Weight over 3 tons. As release of updating in a representation class is planned. Initial cost of 70 thousand US dollars."

John C.

[Yefim]

Some additional pictures including some interior and the rear. I absolutely hate the rear side btw, doesn't it look like the funeral car that is used to transport coffins?? That just ruined it for me. Also, top speed 68 miles/hour?? Thank you very much, I'll stick to my VX!

http://apper.ru/2006/03/19/ukrainski...niem_vepr.html

Another rough translation of the text at the bottom:

"Italian-Ukrainian enterprise 'Iveco-Motor-Sich', together with the auto enterprise 'ATP-15356' (Kremenchug, the Poltava area), have begun manufacturing of the cross-country vehicle 'VEPR' in Kremenchug. 'VEPR' is capable of transporting 21 people. It is equipped with 8 cylinders engine IVECO of 'EURO-2' type and reaches a top speed of 110 km/h (68 miles/hour??) , weight about 4 tons, fuel consumption 14 liters on 100 km (16.8 m/g), ground clearance - 510 mm (20.1 inch)"

[Triathlete]

Gets better gas mileage than most VX's and holds 21 people! I can take all my friends wheeling!
And I agree the back is kind of ugly. But the interior looks pretty sweet.

[Andrey]

Some additional pictures including some interior and the rear. I absolutely hate the rear side btw, doesn't it look like the funeral car that is used to transport coffins?? That just ruined it for me. Also, top speed 68 miles/hour?? Thank you very much, I'll stick to my VX!

http://apper.ru/2006/03/19/ukrainski...niem_vepr.html

Another rough translation of the text at the bottom:

"Italian-Ukrainian enterprise 'Iveco-Motor-Sich', together with the auto enterprise 'ATP-15356' (Kremenchug, the Poltava area), have begun manufacturing of the cross-country vehicle 'VEPR' in Kremenchug. 'VEPR' is capable of transporting 21 people. It is equipped with 8 cylinders engine IVECO of 'EURO-2' type and reaches a top speed of 110 km/h (68 miles/hour??) , weight about 4 tons, fuel consumption 14 liters on 100 km (16.8 m/g), ground clearance - 510 mm (20.1 inch)"

takes disel !

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Here is the answer - for now it is the largest plane in the world... see bottom of the web page for details on standards in measuring planes - measurment by weight rather then wingspan...

http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/design/q0188.shtml

This site uses flawed logic. They start by stating that "ranking" of aircraft is denoted by weight (which makes sense for many reasons). But then, they jump to the conclusion that greater ranking denotes greater size.

Weight is a measure of mass * gravity. Size is a measure of physical dimensions, independent of mass. In space, planes would all be weightless. Which would be the largest then? The same that is largest now. Because Ukrainian airplanes are more dense doesn't make them bigger. It makes them less efficient!

By the logic presented at aerospaceweb, a 1 meter diameter sphere of gold is BIGGER than a 1 meter diameter sphere of copper because it weighs more. You and I know they are exactly the same size.

Everyone knows that SIZE is a measure of VOLUME (in a 3-dimensional object), or LENGTH (in a 2-dimensional object). A 12" steel ruler is not longer than a 24" wood ruler because it weighs more.

Hughes' H-4 Hercules has the largest wingspan (2-dimensional measurement of size) of any aircraft ever, AND the largest interior volume (3-dimensional measurement of size) of any aircraft ever. So it's still the "largest".

I don't care what brainless scientist wants to convince us that weight is indicative of dimensional size. They're idiots - applying their KNOWLEDGE improperly. They KNOW that something is classed as a "greater" airplane, but are incapable of accepting multiple classifications of greatness, so they have to devise a singular measurement thereof.

Despite her brainless, baseless technobabble, the author can't complete the article without adding a nod and including a reference to the greatness of the Hercules, thereby disqualifying her own assertion that the Ar-225 has the sole record for greatness based upon a singular subjective measurement.

Instead, the article leaves the reader drowning in ambiguity.

[Francesco Rizzo]

No, I heard it on the discovery channel that the russian bear airplane thing is the biggest.. and we all know everything on tv is true.. the H-4 is only creditted with mondernizing the cockpit.