ZuZoo dates now official...mark your calandars and be there!

**biju** · 04/14/2006, 01:40 PM

Scott - any chance we could get a 'countdown' module on the homepage?

-biju.

**Todd Adams** · 04/20/2006, 11:25 PM

Originally Posted by Todd Adams

OK I have decided what trail we are going to do but I am not going to tell. Instead I going to make it a contest for the first one to guess it right.
Here are a few clues. Oh and since I have given enough clues to come up with the exact route that is the answer I expect not just the trail name.

1. Even if you have done this trail before I guarantee it will be different as only one that has gotten lost in the area many times as I have knows where the neat things are.
2. The trail is rated almost but not quite a 4 so there may be some straps or even winches used.
3. There may be more than one short walk involved to witness a famous duality and not so famous heart stopper.
4. Not so long ago the way back to town was blocked but now there is a way under.

So what will the prize be? I haven�t figured that out yet.
Todd

Here is another clue. This was shot at Easter Safari this year.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...07678852603943
One of the three (that I can remember) major obstacles on the trail I am planning on. If it looks to hard, let me know.

Todd

**Ldub** · 04/21/2006, 04:13 AM

Is that do-able w/an unlifted, slightly larger tired(265/70-16) VX ?
I'm up for most anything that doesn't include body damage, & am thinking I might still have time to put an inch or two of lift on it before Moab.
I'm aware that without larger diam. tires, a lift isn't going to give the axles much more clearance.
My previous off road experience only includes wheeling at Badlands, a trip to the top of Hualalai on the Big Island(from what I can tell, probably about 3-3.5...done in a stock chev. 3/4 ton PU) & some playing in the mud here in the "great FLAT north".
Thanks for any input,
Ldub

**Jay Dunford** · 04/21/2006, 05:30 AM

Originally Posted by Todd Adams

Here is another clue. This was shot at Easter Safari this year.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...07678852603943
One of the three (that I can remember) major obstacles on the trail I am planning on. If it looks to hard, let me know.

Todd

Ooh, ooh, I think I know! Are you gonna give everyone a wedgie?

**biju** · 04/21/2006, 05:39 AM

!*GULP*!

Um, I'm with LDUB. Is that doable in a near stock VX? I mean - I'll give it a whirl (what the hell, that's what I'm there for!!), but YIKES... Looks like it will get the blood pumping for sure!

How many moon buggies will have winches on this run?

-biju.

**tomdietrying** · 04/21/2006, 06:23 AM

Wooooooo-Whoooooooo! This is going to be fun!
Peace.
Tom

p.s.
Can someone post the address to where I need to send my payment for ZUZU? I signed up but I it will not allow me to use paypal or go where the address is.

**Locomigo** · 04/21/2006, 06:52 AM

Originally Posted by Ldub

Is that do-able w/an unlifted, slightly larger tired(265/70-16) VX ?
Ldub

I would say, absolutely. Todd is a good spotter and very competent leader and as such, I would not see an issue with it.
I remember my first trip to Moab 3 months after having the Amigo and being VERY green myself. Todd led us through Seven Mile Rim and provided lots of tips, pointers, spotting and assistance in general to make us feel comfortable.

These vehicles (Isuzu in general, but the short 92" wheelbase of the Vehicross makes a big difference on a lot of obstacles like this) are very capable and you will surprise yourself with what you can do in them. The traction that slickrock offers is simply amazing.

Most I see happening there is a little bit of scraping on the skid plates, etc. Trust your spotter and have fun! We never put anyone or their vehicle in a position to be intentionally damaged. Yes it can and does happen occasionally (I would say <20%), but the skills of our staff helps greatly to minimize that possibility. Rest assured that we will do everything within our power to get you through the trail with minimal issue.

And the other thing, unless you've been on both sides of the strap/winch, you really havent been wheelin. That or not tryin hard enough.

Keith

**Locomigo** · 04/21/2006, 06:57 AM

Originally Posted by biju

!*GULP*!

Um, I'm with LDUB. Is that doable in a near stock VX? I mean - I'll give it a whirl (what the hell), but YIKES. Looks like it will get the blood pumping for sure!

How many moon buggies will have winches on this run?

-biju.

That's the spirit!

Funny thing on the winch subject... In the 6 years Ive been out there 'Zu Zoo and crawloween runs... I think I have only seen the winch cable spooled out a handful of times on the "normal" trails mostly on Hells Gate and Escalator of Hells Revenge. Typically a strap is all thats needed.

Now for some of the extreme runs (Upper Helldorado, Proving Grounds, Coyote, Pickle, Area BFE), its a different story.

**Locomigo** · 04/21/2006, 07:00 AM

Originally Posted by tomdietrying

Wooooooo-Whoooooooo! This is going to be fun!
Peace.
Tom

p.s.
Can someone post the address to where I need to send my payment for ZUZU? I signed up but I it will not allow me to use paypal or go where the address is.

Try this link:
http://www.zuzoo.org/registration/thankyou.shtml

The one that comes up after your registration.

**Todd Adams** · 04/21/2006, 09:10 AM

Originally Posted by Jay Dunford

Ooh, ooh, I think I know! Are you gonna give everyone a wedgie?

Nope, wrong trail.
Todd

**Triathlete** · 04/21/2006, 09:20 AM

I'm thinking its somewhere in Utah! Thats about as close to guess as I have...and it NOT Poison Spider, Metal Masher, Kane Creek, Hotel Rock, or Gold Bar Rim. I've been on them and don't recall that obstacle.

But I can't wait to find out and give it a go!

Todd, where and when are we meeting up for the VX run?

**Todd Adams** · 04/21/2006, 09:31 AM

Originally Posted by Triathlete

I'm thinking its somewhere in Utah! Thats about as close to guess as I have...and it NOT Poison Spider, Metal Masher, Kane Creek, Hotel Rock, or Gold Bar Rim. I've been on them and don't recall that obstacle.

But I can't wait to find out and give it a go!

Todd, where and when are we meeting up for the VX run?

We will be leaving Portal Campground at 8:00 AM Tuesday May 16th.

Even though this is a regular named EJS trail I will be taking you to spots not normally visited. So plan for a long day. I suspect we will get back to the campground around dinnertime.

**Locomigo** · 04/21/2006, 09:32 AM

From the clues, it seems like Gemini Bridges/Bull Canyon area is a reasonable choice, but neither of those trails are worthy of a 4 rating or 3 obstacles. Ill be interested to see what it is, and how yall fair.

Ill be in camp on Saturday 5/13, so let me know if ya need anything.

**Todd Adams** · 04/21/2006, 09:35 AM

Originally Posted by biju

!*GULP*!

Um, I'm with LDUB. Is that doable in a near stock VX? I mean - I'll give it a whirl (what the hell, that's what I'm there for!!), but YIKES... Looks like it will get the blood pumping for sure!

How many moon buggies will have winches on this run?

-biju.

If it instills any reassurance, I have a winch on my VX and Linda will be following us with one as well.
Todd

**WyldWeasel** · 04/21/2006, 08:55 PM

Being a total newb to the 4WD thing, where does one purchase a strap?

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