Originally posted by Dallas4u

Alright, you are starting to bug me. I know you were trying to be sarcastic and "play around" with those who have voiced their opinions about your posts in the past, but this post kind of pi$$ed me off.

Yes, there is a search feature. I don't know if you were just looking for links while searching or what, but you should know why it is so popular by reading the numerous posts about the muffler... not just on this board, but also on the decaying VMAG board, if you will. John Finell (FeatherFoot) put in a lot of hours working on that design (yes, it really is custom... as in custom designed and fabricated) and I don't think he or anyone else who has come to know him as a VERY big asset to our community (myself included) would appreciate you throwing comments out like this ("I don't know why it's so popular, but it is", "they claim "at least 15 Rear Wheel Horsepower"). "They" claim 15 rear wheel horsepower because it has been dyno'd time and time again by many members on this and the other forum and THOSE ARE THE NUMBERS THEY GET!!! (Give or take a very small margin). You are swingn' a lot o' stuff around here and you don't even drive a VX!!!

I've tried to give you the benifit of the doubt, assuming once you get yours and drive it for a while you will start to understand what everyone is talking about, but I am getting tired of reading this stuff... buy a PV muffler before you start swaying other people away from it, and try and become a useful member of this community before trying to close down the other forum which practically started our little "family".

Crikey
Dallas, it was a joke. Tone has posted several times this week to "use the search feature" and I was making a freaking joke, nothing to get alarmed about.

About my use of the word "claim" - it's a common term in performance upgrades. It wasn't meant to be like "well they CLAIM it's 15 horsepower but I doubt it". It's more like "the posted specs from the manufacturer are 15 horsepower". Very common phrasing in my experience, sorry for the confusion. I think the reasoning is also that every engine is different, (if we all did dynos on our stock engines, there might be actual hp ranges of 10-20 hp among us, it's normal for any mass-produced engine) so upgrades also give a bit of a range of improvements. Adding this or that will rarely if ever give exactly 12.5 hp or whatever, but I have no reason to doubt that this muffler does what Tone and the company says it does.

As for my "I don't know why it's so popular" comment, that stems from that I've had many an exhaust system custom fabricated for not much $$ by local muffler shops. Buying an aftermarket complete cat-back system is the "norm" for an exhaust, I've never in my life seen such a following for a muffler, hence my comment. Generally, mufflers are pretty generic pieces which are just one part of a cat-back system, which, in whole, increases hp (and increases looks with a nice chrome tip). So this was not a dig on the PV, just that you don't see such a following for a muffler. Go to any exhaust shop and they'll be able to order from a catalog of free-flowing mufflers, and can fabricate a complete cat-back system for you for maybe $200-500, I haven't checked in a few years.

I told people to stay away from it? Geez, I told the guy where to find specs on it, where to buy it, and showed him a review of it. That wasn't a fair post? I understand that you are all apparently VERY defensive about the VX, but I'm not the enemy.

I'm an enthusiastic VX owner who's interested in hashing out the upgrades, is that so wrong? I'm not defaming anyone here, I certainly didn't assail or impugn the muffler, it's manufacturer, retailer or owners. Rer-read my post please.