manual tranny...

[kpaske]

Just for my curiosity, does anyone know if those Troopers with the Turbo Diesels had a manual tranny option? If I were thinking about doing a drivetrain swap, that would be a combination I would look into.

[MrCrowley]

I have considered importing the 3.0 turbo diesel from canada or somewhere else close. Go figure that we are the only country in the world that doesnt get the diesel (thanks big three!). From some chats with down under Jackaroo (Trooper to Aussies) owners, the diesel has the same tranny options auto and manual. I was going to attempt this swap for the trooper, but having a turbo engine warrants some serious attention since boost can be increased, and it already has an intercooler. The diesel Trooper has a hood scoop similar to the Subaru WRX stock. They also get crazy mileage with the diesels, and tow nicely!

If anyone can prove if the manual tranny bolts to the TOD unit, I know that a manually created signal can tell the TOD unit which setting to be in based on a switch of some kind. The DCCD (Driver Controlled Center Differential) unit on the Subaru STI is the same type of unit except it has Auto/ Manual and you can select in finer units than ours how much bias front to rear you want AND a 50/50 lock. There is even an aftermarket company that offers a plug in device similar to the tranny interceptor we have that adds more range of adjustment to the DCCD. Everything is just based on what electronic signal tells the Center Diff what to do. That means we can scrap ALL sensors and have a manual adjust to the same ranges that the truck already has programmed to go to with only one input source- the driver.

[mbeach]

Still working on this (the driver adjustable TOD) -it's not as easy as you're making it out to be. I could build the circuit for myself and make it work, but it would be difficult for others to reproduce.

The DCCD in the Subaru STI and the "Grid Dancer" ATTESSA controller available for the Nissan Skyline have exactly NOTHING in common with the Borg-Warner TOD except for purpose.
Neither of those cars use a transfer case -they both have center differentials.

The manual transmission can be done in a TOD VX, it has been done by rally teams. Rather than re-invent the wheel, we need to get an undercar shot of a rally VX -so we can see if a custom adapter was made to match the tranny and transfer case together. I'm not even sure what kind of transmission it is -it could be a commonly available Getrag unit from the aftermarket -you can't tell just by looking at the stick. I had assumed that it was an MUA-5, but this seems to be unlikely.

Someone find an undercar shot of a 5-speed 'rally' VehiCROSS and we'll have our answer.

[mbeach]

Every 5-speed VX that I've managed to find pics of has skidplates covering the important bits.

The Ssangyong Rexton is available with a manual transmission and "smart" TOD.
Anyone in Malaysia/Korea/Japan/Australia able to comment?

[raver_boi_88]

indeed the tod would be a problem to by pass but it would be nice to by pass rather than get rid of it all together

[Joe_Black]

Some of the rally VX's maintained TOD with the 5-speed and had dash-selectable ratios as well, while others either locked it in 50/50 or some other ration suitable for the competition surface.

[MrCrowley]

To continue down this road we will definitely need some international input. I will do what I can to find out some info about the overseas manual and AWD system. I almost insist that it would be the same trannys used on US manual Troopers but we will need some type of proof, though. Its a shame that the Aussies didnt get too many of this truck as they would have already done this stuff for us by now. If folks down there have already done this to Troopers, it should be the same task.

As to what I was saying about the other AWD systems, I was speaking in general about the principle of having elecrical signals dictating the variable output.