Ouch, who's VX was this?

[SuperDave]

I hope no one was sitting in the front passenger seat.

[Maugan_VX]

Yal^>Actually, my wife is 5' tall, shapely, and brunette, and seriously she's the most beautiful thing I've every laid my eyes on

Pics or it never happened :P

[VX1]

Alright, good call...

Circa 5 years ago when we met:


And here's the Swett family in the '05 Christmas photo:


There, so THIS happened!

[Numba1goalie]

go get em tiger.

nice vx.

[BuffArchitect]

[QUOTE=VX1]Yes, God forbid you piss off the P.C. police. Just utter one word that insinuates someone else is different in any way and prepare to be attacked. Always on the lookout for a new way to get offended. To describe a homosexual as gay is not to hate gays. If you feel compelled to be offended though, here’s a tidbit for ya: I love my VX; have for five years, and couldn’t imagine what could replace it. But if I opened the paper tomorrow and read that homosexuals have declared the VX as their official vehicle (e.g. VW Beetle), it would be gone, gone , gone, and not because I hate gays, but because I love myself enough not to be viewed as one. That’s the truth to me, and ~80% of the people out there, but I’m not allowed to say it, because I might offend the other 20% or so. So I never said it. I NEVER SAID IT. I will say that this P.C. krap in this country is out of control.

Also, I think the BMW Z4 is a beautiful, sharp car, and I’d own one in a second, but it seems to be viewed as gay for some reason. I DIDN’T SAY THAT EITHER.

I guess bigots drive VXs too. PC or not, I take offense at your small minded comments. I wish I lived near Napa so I could sneak up and put a Human Rights Coalition sticker on your Vehicross. Then you'd have to sell it so that you could still 'love yourself'. What a crock! The amazing thing to me is bigots NEVER see themselves that way. That's why All in the Family was so funny. What amazes me is we laughed at Archie Bunker 30 years ago and yet there are still people like NumbNutsGoalie wondering around! Now I've gone and offended somebody! Oh well...

[AlaskaVX]

i will give $5 to the first person i meet who has a rainbow sticker like that one on the back of there car and isnt gay.

LMAO!!!! Well I am pretty broke but.............

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HELL NO!!!!!!!

[biju]

Well said buffarchitect.

I haven't replied again out of pure disgust. When it comes to bigots it seems they just don't get it. Sad to think some drive VX's.

In the replies above I sense some serious insecurity issues... However, it's sadistically rewarding to know some are so influenced/controlled by what people might think of them as a result of something they drive/enjoy/own, etc., that it cripples their life. Let them suffer, after all, they do it to themselves. On the other hand, I'm sad for them as prisoners of public opinion and personal ignorance.

For me it wasn't about being "PC". It was more or less, 'who cares?' What a stupid thing to point out...

Regarding the diminishing number of VX's out there? It is sad. Agreed. I do enjoy the benefits of having such a rare vehicle though. No matter who puts what kind of sticker on their VX...

-biju.

[VX1]

Yep, that's why I'd never make it in politics; I tend not to think like the common man. But, I don't strive to be common, so that means nothing to me. Debating with the other 20% also means nothing to me. I'd prefer you don't come to "Napa" and touch my truck. If I'm a bigot, I'm one of those nice ones that lives and let lives, you know, be whatever you want, just don't push it on me. "Small minded" would have to be the antithesis to what I am...but I understand it would make you feel better to see someone who does not share your views on bumper stickers in that light. Interesting that you should choose someone whom you do not know to look down upon, but I understand it makes it easier to do so. If I am indeed imprisoned by an ignorance, then by all means, throw away the key, because I do love where I am. Your sadness [ in me driving a VX] may take consolation that even I will sell it one day, when it no longer works for me, and shall make yet another self-serving decision of which vehicle to aquire.

Archie Bunker was not too funny to me. I am German though, so if you still feel compelled to find a way to hate me, I suppose you could use that and an "ignorance" for history and culture to explain why I don't get you.

[Numba1goalie]

Yea i think this got way out of hand. I made a couple word sentence with no bad meaning behind it and now this thread turned into this? It may just be me, but I am amazed by how antagonistic you people have gotten over a comment I made because I was bored at home and just overanalizing a picture. I bet you wouldnt make such a tiff if someone walking down the street said the same thing to their friend, and you werent even part of the conversation.

[WyrreJ]

#1 - the problem in your original post wasn't really the use of the word "gay" it was the use of the word "though":

thats close to me. looks like the vx owner was gay though. hense the rainbow sticker in the back.

That reads as if you were thinking about checking the car out in the junkyard, though since the owner was gay you probably wouldn't be checking it out after all.

In order to illustrate the impression given to the reader, look at these word substitutions:

thats close to me. looks like the vx owner was black though. hense the X sticker in the back.

thats close to me. looks like the vx owner was a child molester though. hense the NAMBLA sticker in the back.

VX1 - You said:

Interesting that you should choose someone whom you do not know to look down upon,

Buffy ain't looking down on you personally, he's looking down on ANYONE who would say:

But if I opened the paper tomorrow and read that homosexuals have declared the VX as their official vehicle (e.g. VW Beetle), it would be gone, gone , gone, and not because I hate gays, but because I love myself enough not to be viewed as one.

[BuffArchitect]

WyrreJ is right on the money.

People either 'get it' or you don't. If they don't get that their negative opinions about people based on age, religion, race, gender, sexual orientation are prejudices, nothing anyone says in an inconsequential car forum will matter. The world is slowly changing to be a more inclusive and tolerant place and one can only hope that with time, those with prejudices die out and are not replaced.

Have a great day!

[VX1]

Bottom line: some were quick to attempt an attack on Numba1goalie just for pointing out the obvious, I merely felt obliged to really give ‘em something to cry about. But that is how I feel, so if that one comment I made saddens/disgusts or gives an excuse to look down on me, oh well, that's sad from my point of view. It works for me though, so please don't cry for me Argentina. I am a very nice and intelligent individual though; oh where, oh where did I go astray? (That is a rhetorical question)

Wow, and I just read this from Buffarchitect (I happen to be a certified systems architect myself, and quite buff), anywho, you want people to "die off" that don't share your beliefs? Really? Yes, I see the world getting really tolerant there. That's the kind of tolerance that had my family leaving Germany in the late 30's. Bomb many abortion clinics lately to save a life? (again, completely rhetorical). Congratulations, you have just demonstrated absolute hypocrisy.

[yal^]

Ok... I think it's time to put this topic to the rest.
I say, get together, have a beer and have good, long and satisfying discussion as to where who stands...

[biju]

That would be nice, wouldn't it?

we could meet... in a place like Moab... next year... in May...

-biju.

[mbeach]

I wondered where this thread would go. It seems to have gone into the crapper and taken everybody's day with it.

I am forced to ask:
Who really cares what your sexual orientation is? This is a vehicle enthusiast's forum, not a singles chat room.
I have issues with anyone who makes a public statement (sticker or comment) about what should be a private matter. And since when did someone's sexual preference become the key to defining who they are as a human being?
If you're gay -we can tell (with or without a sticker), and the truth is, we don't care.