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    Quote Originally Posted by SGT.BATGUANO
    Try velvet paint. I think custom paint suppliers and por-15 carry it
    Interesting. Searching on google reveals that astronomers are super-interested in light-absorbing black treatments -- to reduce stray reflections in their telescopes. All the amatuer guys seem to swear by this "Nextel Black Velvet" paint which 3M used to make and now appears to be in the hands of this German company:

    Company : Mackiewicz GmbH in Hamburg, Germany
    Telefon : +49-40-751030; Fax:+49-40-75103375
    Lack : 81121,Nextel Velvet, Schwarz (black),1kg 5kg 25kg
    Thinner : 8061, Nextel Thinner

    It also seems to be just as absorbant in the near-IR range as it is in the visible range while something like black-anodized aluminum is super-reflective in the near IR.

    But, I have not been able to find out via google if this Nextel paint is good for exterior use or if it is interior only.

    Now, I'm also wondering about carbon-fibre construction - can you mix weird stuff like paint or some kind of powder into the carbon fibre when it is molded? Or at least paint it afterwards without as much fuss as it takes to paint our regular cladding? I'm thinking that if those guys who are talking about CF replacement cladding can make the parts super-duper-permanent black, that would be a plus too, no more having to worry about treating the cladding to keep it looking black.

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    Pretty sure standard fiberglas resin is used for the c/f, so painting shouldnt be a problem. Check into gelcoat for possible tips, that's what they use to color fiberglas parts and is impregnated into the top layer of the parts.

    The velvet paint is something I saw on one of the episodes of overhauled (sp?) where chip foose mods cars. Not sure if it's the same as the astronomer stuff.

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    I looked into this for one of my old Nissans. It was suggested that I use a high quality (gloss) black base, and use a satin clearcoat over it. Scratches would have to be very deep to show shiny.

    In the end I abandoned the project because SCC stole my stealth idea for their Project 240.

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    Sport Compact Car recently did a flat back ghetto spray can paint job of a WRX STI. I'm not sure how the flat black would look on the VX 'cause the body would blend in with the cladding too much.

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    Too bad we can't powder coat the cladding
    Steve

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    Seems to me that there were a few "muscle cars" in the late 60's & early 70's that came w/ flat black hoods to cut glare (Boss 302 & 429 come to mind)...maybe dig up old paint codes?

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    Missed this post completely.

    It is possible, but it isnt reliable. Matte paints do not have the solvents to protect from elements. HIGHLY unrecommended.

    HOWEVER.... and this is still going to cost some $, but it works.... have your car painted the color you want and have it clearcoated with a couple extra coats of clear. THEN, wetsand it with 1500-2000 grit. BUT, do not buff it afterwards. It will have a sheen, smooth finish, but without the shine. You won't even notice the clearcoat is on it. The downfall of this is, as above, protection will be limited, but not as much. Also, the basecoat will be hazed out a bit from the clear being wetsanded. Can be done though. Years and years ago, we had done this on a an old Willys. Painted it black, the whole works.... and it came out looking like a stealth bomber. It went offroad a lot so it killed the finish fast. A scratch or ding on this finish will create a bigger eye sore than if it were buffed.

    I agree though, a black, satin finished VX would be insane looking. I would love to see one. Maybe I will Photochop one.
    Gary Noonan
    '01 S/C VX / '18 Forester XT

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