Royal Purple in my Tranny

[Joe_Black]

As long as whatever product you're using meets the manufacturer specifications (API/SAE etc.) then they can't void your warranty unless they SPECIFICALLY mention certain products, which they can't of course as that get's them into anti-trust legal territory.

Everyone knows I'm a big Mobil-1 nut but keep in mind that there are only two true synthetics currently available: Mobil-1 and Amsoil. Since there's no regulatory requirements for the sale of synthetic or synthetic blend lubricants, the marketers can make all the claims they want as long as there's at least something like 1 part-per-million of synthetic material in the product. Food for thought. Mobil-1 (and Amsoil to a lesser degree) has an impressive and proven track record since 1975 (XRN 1669 - SAE Paper 750376) in aerospace, marine, professional racing, industrial, commercial, agricultural and extreme enviroments. Royal Purple just has a website and colorful adverts. But hey, if it makes ya feel good...

[jimbo]

I know, I know but don't confuse me with the facts

Well, I got the royal purple already, and it aint cheap! Guess they got to pay for that website.

[Tone]

Amsoil and Mobile 1 are NOT the only synthetics that start with sythetic bases. I spoke with a number of companies at SEMA and they are closing the gap or surpassing those who started this trend.

An email to me from Royal Purple Engineering: "Royal Purple combines the highest quality synthetic base oils with its synthetic, proprietary SYNERLEC additive technology. Amsoil and Mobil 1 both start out with the same base oils as we do, these base oils are call PAO's (polyalphaolephins). The additive packages make the difference."

[jimbo]

It seems to me that this whole "true" synthetic argument misses the point. What exactly is a "true" synthetic? Is Mobil 1 somehow more pure? Isn't the final result, the most advanced technology and best protection for your engine, the thing that matters? Royal Purple seems to be dedicated to staying on the cutting edge of lubricant technology. It's the proprietary additives that make the difference in Royal Purple's case , right?

I'm glad for your post Tone, makes me feel a little better about deciding to use Royal Purple products in my VX.

Now I just have to find someone I trust to do the flush. My mechanic can't do it and I didn't like my last experience at the local Isuzu dealer.

[Joe_Black]

No worries Tone! I know the hype keeps getting better and better from these wanna-be's, but the proof is in the field. When they show up being used by people whose lives are on the line and the longevity of the equipment makes the corporation's bottom line, then I'll take a second look. I know they'll be there one day, but that isn't today and I personally can't afford to take a chance when there's a clear-cut leader. Each and every Isuzu and other vehicle I've owned since 1986 has gotten 100% Mobil-1 and all the Isuzus (a total of 7 so far) have given me well beyond 150,000 miles of trouble-free service, with the exception of the Dragon currently at 30K and the IronMan at 115K. So that's my experience first-hand, and I share what I've learned from other proven sources. I'm not saying Royal Purple or other "synthetics" are bad, just that there are better choices with one heckuva lead in the industry. And that lead is what will make others try harder to make an even better product to garner greater market share. That's what innovation and business is all about, and we as consumers ultimately benefit from it. So remember, as the market isn't regulated at all, they can say they use the same base stocks and have super wonderful additives all day long. That's hype. When some guy working sub-zero weather on a piece of million-dollar equipment that's running shifts 24 hours a day starts using it, then that gets my attention.

[mbeach]

I used Royal Purple oils for a couple of years.
I switched over from Redline and Neo synthetics for a few reasons. One was price/availability, also Redline was specifically mentioned to be damaging to the center diff of the Subaru AWD system.
The Royal Purple did a great job of quieting a noisy gearbox and keeping my LSDs in working order (actually I think that it tightened them up a bit).
In the engine, it seemed that there was no difference whatsoever between my old Mobil 1 and the new Royal Purple. So I used the purple in the gearbox(es) and Mobile 1 in the engine. It's easier to pick up a quart of Mobil 1 than it is to find a quart of RP/Neo/Redline when you're running low.

A few weeks ago, following a service tech's advice, I changed the engine oil over to Mobil 1 (0W30). I've put on @1000 miles since then. My engine is quieter now, and runs a little cooler. Most importantly, my fuel economy has improved dramatically. My last tank (@85-90% highway at 70+mph) worked out to an astounding 18.7 mpg.

Royal Purple is good stuff, but for the sake of cost/availability/recent performance I'm going fully over to Mobil 1.