lol, tell me about it, and btw, me and my pops were looking at a pilot too, my dad couldnt resist the element, hes a tool/die maker and i gotta say it suits him. but i cant say i dont like taking it out, its got a nice sound system and i put a cold air intake on it, to give it better throttle response, i like it although the suicide doors a pain in the @$$ sometimes... thanks for the welcome and the auction, im kinda scared of buying cars on internet auctions, i see alot of them on autotrader though - thanks again