View Poll Results: Options for the VX only run (Choose all that apply)

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  • I'm going on this trail (Need an accurate count to see if we need a permit for Arch Canyon)

    9 100.00%
  • I want to go, but not this trail

    0 0%
  • I DO want to do an overnighter (For the Arch Canyon Trail)

    8 88.89%
  • I do NOT want to do an overnighter (For the Arch Canyon Trail)

    0 0%
  • I want to START on Monday May 16, 2005 (For the Arch Canyon Trail)

    4 44.44%
  • I want to START on Tuesday May 17, 2005 (For the Arch Canyon Trail)

    3 33.33%
  • I can't decide what day to start!

    1 11.11%
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Thread: VX only run May 17th 2005 - Added new poll!

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    VX only run May 17th 2005 - Added new poll!

    VX only run on May 17th 2005
    I know this is a long way off but since this is a long and difficult trip that I have in mind, I would like to get an idea if we should do this or not. After your reading of the trail description, I would like a head count if you are interested in this trail and want to participate.
    We would begin in Moab around 7:00 AM on Tuesday May 17th. We would head south on highway 191 to Blanding Utah which is approximately 110 miles. Hence the leaving at 7:00 AM. We would top off our gas in Blanding and follow highway 95 for another 20 miles or so to where we turn back north towards Arch Canyon.
    Arch Canyon has been in the news lately with the Jeep Jamboree having been denied a permit this year but went anyway with the San Juan County Sheriff and Commissioner in the lead. The BLM has filed a law suit against San Juan County and San Juan County has counter sued. All very interesting since the Wilderness groups want to shut Arch Canyon to motorized travel. The area was inhabited by pre historic Indians. There are numerous cliff dwelling sites and we will visit a couple of these on our route. There are still sites that have not been found and new artifacts are found all the time. Some of the newest are on display at the Edge of the Cedars Sate Park in Blanding. Unfortunately we won’t have time for a visit to the museum but it is well worth a return to do so on your own.
    The trail to Hotel Rock from Arch Canyon is rated 4. There are a couple of difficult ledges that some may need help with. Tone may even get to use his strap he always has dangling out the back door. Should be about as tough as the place on Kane Creek we had to winch a few on last year.
    The trail then winds north to an intersecting FS road and eventually ends us back in Blanding in a clockwise loop. I would not expect to get back to Moab before dark and that is if we have no problems along the way.
    A word of concern if we go into Arch Canyon. Group limit is 10 vehicles so if we do go in to the canyon (we don’t have time to go to the end just to a nice ruin a mile or so in) we take the chance of having to deal with the BLM. I doubt even if we had a larger group they would issue a citation because of the pending litigation but there is a chance. This is one reason I would like to have a final vehicle count beforehand so I could prepare with some help from our friends at the county. I might even be able to arrange an escort but with no publicity I shouldn’t think it necessary.
    Here is a link to the trail description written a number of years ago. The trail has changed a bit with the off camber section less scary than when the Fractured Axle group went. http://4x4now.com/arch.htm
    Todd
    Ps once you read the 4x4 Now story you might be interested in this one. http://www.rockymountainextreme.com/...ad.php?t=13204 It has nothing to do with the trail only that re reading the Arch Canyon article made me think of lost friends and good times. Just some reminiscing about Lizard (AKA Gene Ferris) and Sudie. Just remember this sort of thing can happen to us all and life is short.


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    Last edited by Moncha : 01/27/2005 at 01:32 PM Reason: Added new poll to title

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    Most definitely YES! Randy had been talking about making it an official part of the Zu but don't know where that stands. Some of the Texans are arriving the Sat before so let me know if there is any prep we can do therefor ya. Thanks again for doing this for us.

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    Originally posted by Tone
    Most definitely YES! Randy had been talking about making it an official part of the Zu but don't know where that stands. Some of the Texans are arriving the Sat before so let me know if there is any prep we can do therefor ya. Thanks again for doing this for us.
    Tone,
    'ZuZoo will not be able to do it. This trail was for one year a BLM permitted trail but is no longer but we can do it on our own. The BLM pulled the permit on the Jeep Jamboree as well as the EJS ('ZuZoo is the same permit) due to environmental concerns. (In reality it was because of a SUWA complaint) I am just glad that the county takes the stand that all roads are open and if you see any closed signs rip them up and take them to the county commission for disposal at the BLM office!

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    Count me in.

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    Me too!! Always up for a new trail and Todd always has the area history to keep the drive entertaining.

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    I am a little nervous, but sounds great! I trust Todd, I just have to drive it back to Texas!
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    Talking

    I'm in! After doing the Gate last year, I feel pretty froggy.. Laura may have something else to say but, I just blindfold her and go anyway!
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    I expecting that I can complete my conversion in plenty of time for Moab... and I would DEFINITELY like to make this trip with everyone here. I am looking forward to taking my son on OUR maiden voyage... I better get back to the garage and get to work!

    Coach... I mean Randy (I often forget who I really am)

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    I should be there!
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    Based on the numbers last year Todd, I think we will be at or below 10VXes for this run. Lisa and I are only bringing 1.

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    What would you guys think about a few select honorary VehiCross’s coming along. Randii wants to come very badly am I am sure a couple of others will as well. BTW if you did not know already, Randy and Kammy have a new addition to the family. When I last some him he weighed in at 20+pounds and Turbo was top pick for his name at the time. I would bet he is near 100 when you guys get to see him.

    If we get more than ten I will give one of the San Juan County Commissioners a call and let them know our plans. I know these guys and they will support us 110% if we chose to do Arch Canyon. It is worth the trip just to do Hotel Rock.

    This trip is going to ROCK!

    I will give you one more option. If we make it an overnight camp we could camp out in Beef Basin or Ruin Park and come into the Needles the next morning and back out Elephant Hill.

    Todd

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    Dynomite! I 'm in, Proposed trip, really makes the driving distance worth while. Elephant rock is always fun & camping out would be a blast. All others welcome as far as I am concerned.

    Bob F

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    Todd,
    Count me in.
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    noob Q's....

    Hey VX'ers...

    Questions - and thanks in advance for your time and help....

    I'm relatively new to the VX community having purchased my VX this summer after driving (*gasp) a Jetta for years. I will be in Moab to meet (hopefully) all who'll be there in 2005. Being new to the 4x4 world and the VX I'm really interested in the trails you speak of. I've done some research on this site and others as far as equipment and preparedness goes for off-roading. However, my question is about the trip/trail in this post. I'm a total off-roading 'virgin' with NO experience other than just a few mountain roads here in the Rockies. Is it something a first time off-roader could handle? (the trail in this post).

    Thoughts, recommendations, advice? Again, thanks gang.

    -biju.

    *Update: after a few PM's w/ url's, looks like the trail in this post will be a *tad* outta my league. Thanks all !!!..............
    Last edited by biju : 12/03/2004 at 03:04 PM

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    Re: noob Q's....

    Originally posted by biju
    Hey VX'ers...


    *Update: after a few PM's w/ url's, looks like the trail in this post will be a *tad* outta my league. Thanks all !!!..............
    You have to be willing or you will always wonder what could have been.

    Bob F

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