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    Wow, I've seen it but hadn't read this thread yet. Had no idea it concerned me.

    The avatar stays. My avatar is a reflection of who I am, just like everyone else's. Who I am will not be dictated to me because someone can't handle it. It would be pretty ridiculous to set a standard like that, because everything offends somebody. I have to wonder how anyone who would ask such a thing even functions in this world. And Saddam is an evil man and deserves whatever he gets. You are quite fortunate not to have had to learn that the hard way.

    I appreciate the things everyone has said, and I appreciate any of you who are veterans most especially. I am as passionate about this stuff as most anybody, and believe me, part of me would love to get a good debate going on this stuff. However, I have learned it is hopeless. I haven't given up the fight and my beliefs will not waver, but I have decided that for the good of everyone here it is best not to go down this road - not here anyway. You all may do what you wish of course, but I appeal to all of you to consider doing the same. I just don't want to see this wonderful group of people get fractured in a pissing match that ultimately changes nothing for anybody politically but wrecks this VX community. That would be a sad day indeed. It just isn't worth it folks.
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    I think this thread is in the wrong forum. Although I usually read from the front page and not scouring different forums, this should have been posted in Chit-Chat to keep it from VX related threads.

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    quote: Now I don't think ALL criticisms are painted as "treason". But gathering together as many people as possible to publicly display to the world that you don't support your commander-in-chief could be viewed that way. The way I see it, if you don't like the direction your country is headed, you have two choices. Try to do something about it or get the #@$% out. Internal criticism is perfectly acceptable and justified, but outwardly directed expressions of dissent are unneccessary and uncalled for.

    55 million people that voted for someone other than Bush think differently on how the nation should be led. If it's a cause that's worth fighting for, it's nowhere near treasion. I use the example that if a father lost the custody of his children on a technicality in a law through no fault of his, and the court already decided - could you blame the father for trying after the court has ruled? or stand back and be an American and falsely support something that you don't agree with. I'm not talking about wanting to overturn the election, that's over with. But if you believe strongly in some of the popular issues like abortion, stem cell research, and the Iraq war, there's no shame in announcing that you think differently than the commander in chief.

    Having the perfect president is impossible, but wanting one should not be a crime or labeled as doing something treason-like.

    Anyways, I'm going to stop talking about this, getting sick of it. Back to the VX baby!!!

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    55 million people that voted for someone other than Bush think differently on how the nation should be led. If it's a cause that's worth fighting for, it's nowhere near treasion. I use the example that if a father lost the custody of his children on a technicality in a law through no fault of his, and the court already decided - could you blame the father for trying after the court has ruled? or stand back and be an American and falsely support something that you don't agree with. I'm not talking about wanting to overturn the election, that's over with. But if you believe strongly in some of the popular issues like abortion, stem cell research, and the Iraq war, there's no shame in announcing that you think differently than the commander in chief.
    My only point is if you want to make changes in the U.S., you're only recourse is to debate it within the U.S. If a father loses custody of his kids in Maryland, what sense does it make to go crying about it to Delaware, where he has some simpathizers? Posting to web sites that further degrade the international view of America and its government does nothing to improve the state of affairs within America. Sending out that type of message is counterproductive, only serves to further divide this country, and I can't see any possible good coming out of it.

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    Thumbs up

    i like the avaitar. i'm not offended.
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    Originally posted by Dallas4u
    I think this thread is in the wrong forum. Although I usually read from the front page and not scouring different forums, this should have been posted in Chit-Chat to keep it from VX related threads.
    Agreed. We need to have a political frag-fest section.
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    The Avatar reminds me of Whack-A-Mole.

    You hammer down one fascist and another just pops up . . .

    kinda expresses the futility of changing things via military aggression

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    Can we set one thing straight....the meaning of the word liberal..


    Liberal according to the Bush administration and its supporters:

    a leftwing radical and a supporter of the appeasement of terrorists.

    Liberal according to the Concise Oxford English Dictionairy:

    someone who is favorable to democratic reform and individual liberty and moderately progressive.

    So my dear US republican friends, in accusing someone of being a liberal, means 1-you have to go back to school and pick up some history lessons or 2-you're just parotting the words of a president who already has shown on several occcasions not to be the brightest star in the sky or 3-you're a closet democrat, just badmouthing people in the hope nobody ever discovers your true identity

    Never argue with an idiot - make him president
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    *yawn*

    Any reason this "push me' shove you" thread is continuing.... in a VX Talk section? Political discussion always ends up going down a dead end road. Probably not the smartest of debates to start if you want to keep friends.

    Please, just allow me to push and shove both sides of this argument. I raspberry in both directions. Whether you're an illiterate red stater or an anal retentive blue stater.... feel the wrath of my rolling eyes. :rightg: Me? I'm from the moon, so it's a spectator sport for me.
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    that I'm sorry sight was the most annoying thing I have ever seen, I got through about 4 of them before I was so pissed off I had to leave. It's a democracy, the majority, no matter how small elected Bush so get over it, if you're really that upset, then go to another country and come back in 4 years, if you win then....damn hippies.

    by the way, I love the avatar, I need one of me beating down a hemp wearing tree hugger

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    And I'm sure all those appologizing on that site will be spared from the next suicide bombing! We all know that they don't bomb, kill or harm in any way any "innocent" people when when they send in the car bombs, airliners etc.
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    First off, I don't recall Heraclid asking anyone if they approve of his "avatar" or not. With that being the case, I will not offer an opinion on it.

    This is directed at those who would like to control what other folks do, say & think.

    Too bad the world isn't shaped according to your own personal belief's, isn't it? Because if it was, we would all look the same, sound the same, eat the same, dress the same, blah blah blah and so on. Wouldn't that be an exciting place to live?

    I will ask you this: why don't you open your mind up to the fact that not everyone is going to think along the same path as you?

    Three different people can see the same thing three different ways. Take a glass of water for instance, I see that it is half full, another says that it is half empty and yet another says it is just right. Who is to say which is correct?

    Lastly, it is just a damn avatar. Is it going to throw the world into chaos? Is it going to cause little old ladies to curse and spit on the ground? Is an asteroid going to crash into earth?

    Are malevolent HUNGRY beings from another galaxy speeding here this very minute - hell bent on herding all humans to a giant cookout, where we will be the main course?

    -then get out and enjoy your VX, life is much too short to worry about an avatar.

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    ...funny you would mention it...

    Originally posted by kinnaq
    Are malevolent HUNGRY beings from another galaxy speeding here this very minute - hell bent on herding all humans to a giant cookout, where we will be the main course?

    Dude, they're already here... and they're doing just that... so maybe instead of stirring the pot - we should jump out of it!


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    I think that some of our more fanatical jesus club people here, should make their avatar from the old, stinky cheese sandwich, "supernatural miracle" of jesus's mama's picture






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    Heck, it looks more like Marlene Dietrich... :laughr:
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