ummmm... so thats about a 30" tall tire and 10" wide. thanks for the info, but i want to be in the range of $600 with tires AND wheels. right now i have 18" rims and i want something like 15-16" rims. so they are probably a bit pricey. i have good road tires on the 18" rims, but they dont do well off road, so i just wanted a cheaper setup to abuse off road. i like the tires and wheels that tone has for sale, but they require trimming. any other ideas?