snippage of Original post by jimbo
It seems to me a battle is going on worldwide between two competing philosophies. At the root is the question as to whether the personal freedoms and secular beliefs that we have gained in the past hundred years are a good thing or the cause of unhappiness and moral decay.

I think the culture of the individual coming first and the absolute separation of religion and government (even given the problems it has created) is the best thing that has ever happened to the world. I don't want to see anything take it away.
HaHa!!! Well I've seen it all now. A link to Lyndon LaRouche's website on the VX board. What's next - John Birch Society?

Jimbo, you seem sincere. Maybe you're a true seeker of knowledge. I am too. I love to read and ponder and listen and ponder and talk and ponder and... well you get the point. Drives my girlfriend crazy...

Here's my take: The root grows much deeper than you think....

You're right - there is in fact a battle going on between two "philosophies" - but the battle is not "worldwide" - it goes beyond that. The "world" (i.e., universe) is like a giant train rolling down the tracks. We as passengers can get out of our seats and move around a little but we're all headed to the same place at the same rate. The battle is not limited to the three dimensions in which we're free to move or even to the one dimension in which we don't have freedom of movement (since we're all hurtling through it in the same direction at the speed of light). No, the battle is being waged outside the train.*

While on this train ride, you have time to ponder, to make decisions, to meet and talk to people about what's going on outside the train, etc - but your journey will soon come to an end, and you will then be expected to leave the train and go on to your final destination.

Unfortunately, many red herrings have been dragged through the woods to keep you - you personally - from thinking about the true nature of this battle. This very website may be one of those red herrings. Politics and conspiracy theories are certainly among those red herrings. Politics leads just about ALL of us dogs off the path at one time or another but it's stench is not the strongest. Secular Humanism is one of the biggest, fattest, stinkiest red herrings of them all and it has become so thoroughly entwined with left-wing politics that one can't tell them apart anymore. I do know one thing though - individual freedom is not part of the Secular Humanist/leftist agenda. The socialists of this world want you to conform to their humanist "world community" value system. Don't do it! If you have to chase a red herring, make sure it's not one that leads you so far off the path that, when you realize you're headed in the wrong direction, you can't get back!

*Note about the train: If you don't believe there's anything outside the train (beyond the light cone) that affects our reality - and you just can't bring yourself to read anything that hints at th existance of a creator - and from what I can tell, that is the case - then bone up on John Stewart Bell's work.