Originally posted by jimbo
Again you are missing the main point I'm trying to make about the dangers of putting "rights" issues up for a popular vote rather than handling them in the courts at the federal level.

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We could see wide variations between states on all these "rights" issues. I don't think that would be good.

Whohoo! Look out boys the viking's been in the akavit tonight and this kind of talk fires me up so this might be trip down Faque Lane!

Jimbo, I'm sorry I missed your main point but... well... it got buried under the heaps of dung you foisted off on me! Come on man - you toss out something as outrageuos as Souhern states doing away with civil rights for minorities and expect to get away with it by saying it's just an "example"? You are freakin' pegging my bull**** meter dude! Ha! I love it! I was actually laughing out loud as I read your post. I really admire a good BS'er and I am 100% serious about that. You probably reeled in a lot of strange as a single man didn't you?

And NO - A BIG FAT NOOOO - I DON'T think your racism statement is true in ANY part of the country, but I DO think it gives us some insight into what the "Proud Members of the Intellectual Elites" living in "The United States of Liberty and Education" think of us backward saps in "Jesusland". I'm sure you've seen the button that says "Dear Red States, to be honest, we DO think you are ignorant rednecks" There's a bunch of funny items on that Betty Bowers site. Too bad the button designers weren't intellectual enough to realize "elites" is not a word...

What the heck - it's all good. In the future, you might consider leaving the scare tactics to blowhards like Limbaugh and Carville though. You're good - but not THAT good. They are professional BSers/entertainers whose livlihood depends on keeping the country divided with all that trash talking.

OK - enough of that - got kind of sidetracked there. We've got our own trash talking to do! Let's get to your MAIN POINT which was, in your words, "the dangers of putting "rights" issues up for a popular vote rather than handling them in the courts at the federal level".

Aha! The Democracy part of that Democratic Socialist thing you Democrats have been cramming down our throats for the last 40 years is now biting you in the ***** isn't it? It was looking pretty good for a while there - when you were the majority. The "proselytizers of a new faith" were on a roll - but then Shazzaam! Gomer wants his country back! SO - now you're looking to the Judicial Branch to impose your morality on the entire country through activist courts. Last time I checked, our government was a Constitutional Republic, relying on a system of checks and balances (the three branches of government and the Constitution) to protect us from just such a thing. It also protects us from what you NOW fear - majority rule - also known as pure democracy or "mob-ocracy" if you will - so buck up little camper - your civil liberties are safe. Have faith in the system. It will be rough for a few years because you won't get exactly what you want - but it will work out in the end.

In the meantime, lie down on my psychoanalyst couch and let's talk about converting you to Libertarian!

Do you not see the beauty of a federal government limited by Constitutional checks and balances? Do you think we should exchange a system of government that has worked just fine for 200 years for an Orwellian, we-must-all-think-alike Democratic Socialist form of government?

What disturbs you so much about states having different laws? To me it seems like a good solution to intolerance. If you just can't stand to be around those who think/act differently than you, then you can MOVE to a state where the philosophical and political leanings (and thus the state laws) are more to your liking. Can't stand tobacco smoke? Move to NY! Love those cigs? Move to NC and smoke up Johhny! Banjo music get on your nerves? Stay the hell out of the South! Go see Le Nozze di Figaro at the Met instead...

And yes, I'm substituting less controversial issues for the ones you always mention in order to cut down on the red herring factor but I think you'll get the point.

I think it's a damn fine sign that both the Republicans and the Democrats are wailing about "activist judges". Sounds like the balance of power is just about right for a change.

OK - your turn. With a little help from BaMBaM's massive cut and paste effort I think we can get 30 pages out of this baby.