[QUOTE]Originally posted by Heraclid
[B] My wife's minivan can take most any Civic with the whiny exhaust that makes lots of noise but little to show for it and that just makes it more painfully obvious you're all show and no go. Those things don't even sound good... if it has some power, it'll rumble like a Mustang GT or RamAir Firebird or something.

I've seen some of those Civics with whiny exhausts eat Mustang GT's, Firebirds, and even AWD Porche Turbo's. That must be some minivan your wife has? It's super-charged with NOS right?