Would you all prefer to keep it local then? I have no problem with that. As it turns out, much of the beach has been eroded pretty bad from this past winter, so it's probably still quite a mess in OC. Plus, work is about to throw me into crunch-mode, which is what I always dread hearing.

How about we just try to say like Sept 4th at a location like D&B's then. Or maybe Hooters like the year before. If we can all agree on a date (the 4th is during Labor Day weekend anyways), then we can discuss a meeting place.