Originally posted by SGT.BATGUANO
I don't have time to be lured into a tangled web of immature personal insults.
Oh, like whipping out the word "immature" isn't a personal insult? I know you're pulling out your trump card on this one... working it so you can state your point of view without recourse or retort, but it ain't working on me. You seem like an intelligent guy, but I strongly disagree with much of what you believe. AND I think I can convince you (or maybe someone else?) otherwise.

I will say this, serving your country honorably/ working for the government or blindly agreeing with everything it does are entirely different things. Ask John Kerry.
Err, yeah. WELL. This is where I disagree with you. One is executed intelligently and one obliviously, but BOTH serve the same SEPARATIST, NATIONALISTIC attitude that is keeping this world at arms. There's no need for nations in this stage of the history of mankind. All they do is segregate us and eliminate proper distribution of resources, wealth, and jobs, which in the end leads to WAR. It's an inefficient process and is completely unnecessary given the ability to travel and communicate across the world with such ease. For the first time ever, we can feasibly implement universal governmental, economic, educational, and other social systems. So what's stopping us? You guessed it... the richer nations would suffer a bit for it, and humans are too greedy to care about the overall betterment of the world. They want betterment of their individual life.

That's the thing here, that we can agree to disagree in this country, and frequently do.
I'm saying that every human on earth deserves the same opportunities in life no matter where they live. Is that what you disagree with? Tell people in Cuba and Iraq that their pain, anguish, and imminent death is meaningless to America because we have the right to disagree that it matters. We have the right to build that wall around us and ignore the suffering of those on the outside and keep all the riches inside. That's the great right to obliviousness that is called "nationalism".

You don't want a bunch of lemmings, do you?
Lemmings would be preferable, yes. Lemmings don't war with eachother.

Now I'm off to abuse my AR-15, Glock 45 and M1-A.
Yeah, go arm yourself against the rest of the world. That's your right as an American. That is the same attitude that made this country so great ("great" means "big", afterall, not "good", ya know... something can very well be great AND bad), but big walls or whatever, they're gonna tumble. It's gotta happen sooner or later. Better sooner than later, I say.

Have a nice Holiday and remember it's meaning.
This holiday is about remembering those fallen in combat. Specifically, Americans who've died serving this country, but that's a meaningless reminder of tribe mentality - how people will kill eachother just to associate with a cultural, social, or ethnically unique tribe. America is so funny that way, because our tribe isn't unique in any way. We associate with Americans with this illusion of "true americans" being people like ourselves... blonde and blue irish, or latin immigrants, or black or whatever we are... but LIKE us. Other americans aren't REALLY americans... they're just the people we allow to live here in our great country... and who don't really deserve the lifestyle this country affords people (because they're not like us). And they piss us off! LOL @ us that we have sub-segregation based upon race, religion, or just culture. We are truly pathetic. We can't even execute tribe mentality properly.

How better to remember the dead soldiers of the world than to LEARN from their deaths ?!? It's MEANINGLESS to die for a nation. A nation is nothing. It's an invisible line. People on the other side of the line are the same... they're people. Work out your differences and erase the line. Don't kill them and stretch your line over into their former territory!!! It's meaningless !!! Look at Europe... they've made the biggest leap forward by homogenizing their currencies. How smart are they?! We should follow their lead! Believe me, it would eliminate a LOT of (if not ALL) war if the world had one centralized economy!

I hope someone gets my point and agrees with it. This crap about nationalism is really peeving me lately. I'm so sick of people who support war because they think it's a good thing. In case you reading this are one of those people, this is directed at you. Breaking stuff is bad, braniac. Why don't you total your Vehicross so your insurance company can pay to have it suped up? Get a brain.